- From: John Foliot - bytown internet <foliot@bytowninternet.com>
- Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:24:11 -0400
- To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <sub@shanx.com>
discrimination - "the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually" (Mirriam Webster Collegiate Dictonary) Currently, the New York Times is available in both Large Print and Braille - not all of it but large portions thereof (http://www.dlapr.lib.az.us/braille/periodicals.htm). The point is, they at least attempt to service a minority market, maybe not equally, but at least the effort is there. But when a web site, either through choice or lack of knowledge (ignorance is not an excuse in law) fails to make their content accessible then they are actively discriminating against a segment of the population. The news article indicated that user fares were less when booked on-line (I do not know if that is true); if that is the case, and the site is inaccessible to a segment of the population with no other way of achieving that savings, then there is (to me anyway) discrimination taking place. The W3C and certain portions of the internet community have been talking about accessibility and the importance of the topic for years now (The WCAG was made a W3C Recommendation May 5,1999). Various governments (including the USA and Canada) have passed laws mandating accessible web sites and yet where are we today? Three and a half years later, if 80% of the content on the web was even half-way accessible I'd say wait a minute, but that is hardly the case. Most web content today is even less accessible than it was 5 years ago. Other voices on this list have already addressed the fact that creating accessible content is actually valuable from a business perspective, and that standards compliant code is not that hard to maintain, so I won't re-hash those threads. But dispite good business sense, a wealth of information on how to acheive the goal, and an emerging group of tools to aid developers in the task, we appear to be spinning our wheels. If litigation is going to move the topic forward and actually make industry sit up and take notice then I say let's go! Money talks, Bovine Effluent walks.... Shanx, accessible web sites go far beyond making them available to "every Joe with a handicap and his dog" (a poor choice of words by the way - it's a *TAD* insensitive). Accessibility means available to all users, regardless of the technology they may be using. Bloated Flash intensive sites with locked down fonts, grey text on black backgrounds, "mission critical" functions which rely on JavaScript, and all the other hooey we see every day is inaccessible to large portions of the population, not just those with visible handicaps. It's seniors, children, users who's first language is not the mother tongue of the web site, it's people in rural areas with poor dial-up connections or under funded schools and libraries with pre-1995 technolgies (Wow! a 486 with a 14" monitor and a 14.4 baud modem!) These people deserve to have access to the internet and it's content as well. Yet too often *designers* "publish" visually based material with absolutely no concept of what they are doing, and with little care to the barriers they CREATE through inaction or ignorance. The suits in the front office think of the web as just some fancy advertising medium, half way between magazines and television, and expect things to "look" a certain way with little understanding of what this medium really is (and what it is all about). They need a wake up call, and a court challenge may be just the ticket. I for one salute the challenge, and hope they win big time! JF > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On > Behalf Of Shashank Tripathi > Sent: October 7, 2002 11:38 AM > To: 'Harry Woodrow'; 'Graham Oliver'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: RE: Media - Suit Over Airlines' Web Sites Tests Bounds of ADA > > > > Hi Harry, > > I would be the first one to empathize with a handicapped group, but what > exactly is discrimination in this case? I don't see anyone hassling NYT > (to follow my earlier example) to print two different copies of the > paper. > > Shanx > > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Harry Woodrow [mailto:harrry@email.com] > | Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:34 PM > | To: 'Shashank Tripathi'; 'Graham Oliver'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > | Subject: RE: Media - Suit Over Airlines' Web Sites Tests > | Bounds of ADA > | > | > | Yes but Discrimination is even more ridiculous. > | > | Harry Woodrow > | >
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