- From: Harry Woodrow <harrry@email.com>
- Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 23:43:47 +0800
- To: "'Shashank Tripathi'" <sub@shanx.com>, "'Graham Oliver'" <goliver@accease.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
I think it may be a good idea to elaborate on my previous reply. Often it seems as if we are saying that people are complaining about the websites. That is not the case, what they are complaining about is access to goods and services. The website is just the medium through which they access them. Everyone has a right to be treated fairly and not discriminated against because of physical characteristics, be these of race, sex or of physical capacity. It is not that long ago that in both Australia and The United States people were prevented from accessing services because of race. That struggle has not been completely won in either country but few now question the need for the laws that cover this or accuse someone who uses them of just taking the opportunity for every man and his dog to use them. The legal state has been won but there is still a long way to go for complete cultural acceptance of this. It isn't that long ago that women were denied access to upper education and to many jobs. I can still remember when it was a reasonable ground to deny women a job in an engineering firm as they would have to build a toilet for them. That battle too has been won though the use of legislation though there are still problems of social acceptance. It also is only recently that shops and service entities have had to install things such as ramps and Universal Access Toilets so that more people can access them regardless of their physical capacities. This has also helped people such as the elderly who may be able to manage for example stairs so many benefit not just those who have demanded them and used legislation to get them. (sadly in most of these countries access still hasn’t been provided for the dog...except guide dogs.) It wasn't goodwill of the service providers that ensured this it was the complaints and suing by people with disabilities. This kind of access is now becoming an expected part of life although a few businesses still complain they have to provide it...most have realised that it gives them access to a much wider market and a much bigger pool of potential employees. Many services are now provided through the web. All people regardless of race, sex or physical disability surely have a right to access these services. Access has to be provided when the service is provided in a store or school or stadium or theatre so why shouldn’t it be provided on the web. How this is done is the responsibility of those designing the web sites but the why is the responsibility of the provider of the services. The means are there just as they are to make physical access better. If the provider makes the choice to make the service only available to those possessing certain physical characteristics he or she is discriminating against the person wishing to access them. When a person is discriminated against they have the right to protest and protest strongly and to use all legal means to do so if they have to. It isn't a case of trying to get sympathy it is a call for our rights. Harry Woodrow -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Shashank Tripathi Sent: Monday, 7 October 2002 10:23 PM To: 'Graham Oliver'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: RE: Media - Suit Over Airlines' Web Sites Tests Bounds of ADA | http://www.law.com/jsp/printerfriendly.jsp?c=LawArticle&t= | PrinterFriendlyArticle&cid=1032128683422 It's funny what is possible in the US. Wonder why no one has ever sued NYT or IHT for the small print in their newspapers though. Suddenly, the Internet and all the usability and accessibility jazz that is bandied about has encouraged every Joe with a handicap and his dog to scrounge for some sympathy. But suing is ridiculous. Thanks for the link. Shanx --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 3/10/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 3/10/2002
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