- From: John Foliot - bytown internet <foliot@bytowninternet.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:22:12 -0400
- To: <poehlman1@comcast.net>, <jukka.korpela@tieke.fi>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
What about: <a href="#content" title="Skip Navigation. Access key = 2. "> <img src="hello.gif" alt="Hello world. "> <frame src="banner.html" title="Frame banner. "> I know this validates, but does it create any problems? (I can't think of any, but...) JF > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On > Behalf Of poehlman1@comcast.net > Sent: July 25, 2002 1:40 PM > To: jukka.korpela@tieke.fi; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: RE: Invisible Skip navigation link > > > > It might be possible then to delimit the words in some other way such as > vertical bar or - or slash but vertical bar might be the best choice. > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Jukka Korpela jukka.korpela@tieke.fi > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:19:27 +0300 > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: RE: Invisible "Skip navigation" link > > > > Steve Vosloo wrote: > > > To cover all bases it seems a good idea to always put a space after a > > text description, and usually after some sort of punctuation: > > > > <a href="#content" title="Skip Navigation. Access key = 2. "> > > <img src="hello.gif" alt="Hello world. "> > > <frame src="banner.html" title="Frame banner. "> > > In practice, I tend to agree, at least in situations where alt texts would > otherwise "run together". > > But we have a problem here. The HTML 4 specification says that user agents > may ignore leading and trailing spaces in attributes (e.g., treat > alt="foo " > as equivalent to alt="foo") for "CDATA attributes" (such as > title, alt, and > many others). This is specified in section 6.2 "SGML basic types" (so you > may easily miss it when using the specification as a reference): > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.2 > And it even says in this context: "Authors should not declare attribute > values with leading or trailing white space." (Someone might > interpret this > "only" as a strong way of saying that authors should not _rely_ on such > space being preserved.) > > XHTML is a different beast: > "Whitespace in attribute values is processed according to [XML]." > http://www.w3.org/TR/html/#uaconf > And this means strict (and fairly complicated) normalization rules: > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml#AVNormalize > But those rules do not make stripping leading and trailing spaces > mandatory > for CDATA attributes - though they _do_ require such stripping for other > attributes! (And they require compression of multiple spaces, so that > alt="foo " is normalized to alt="foo ".) > > It's difficult to say whether XHTML is intended to _allow_ stripping of > leading and trailing spaces in CDATA attributes (as HTML 4 does). > > Note that if such stripping is allowed, alt=" " can be treated as > identical > to alt="", which would not be nice at all if e.g. the image is a separator > between adjacent words. > > -- > Jukka Korpela, senior adviser > TIEKE Finnish Information Society Development Centre > http://www.tieke.fi > Phone: +358 9 4763 0397 Fax: +358 9 4763 0399 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > >
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