- From: Jukka Korpela <jukka.korpela@tieke.fi>
- Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:50:26 +0300
- To: "'w3c-wai-ig@w3.org'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Scarlett Julian wrote: > I was (am) under the impression that whatever I, as an author, > decide to put in a text area to designate it's intended use > is the actual place-holding characters. What you put in a text area, e.g. <textarea name="address" rows="5" cols="50"> Salomonkatu 17 A 10th floor FIN-00100 HELSINKI FINLAND </textarea> specifies the "initial value", or "default value", for the field (or "control", to use the HTML 4 terminology). This means that if the user does nothing about it and submits the form, that value will be sent as the value of the field. This is great e.g. in applications that generate a form from data base information or from previous user input. For example, in a form for making modifications to a database entry, the program that generates the form would simply put the current entry into the form fields, letting the user see them all and modify those that need to be modified. Similarly for <input type="text">. The value="..." attribute assigns an initial value to the field. > What then, is a place-holding character and how does it differ from, > for example, my decision as an author to put "enter your name here" > in a text input that is for a user to type in their name. It doesn't differ from that - "enter your name" or just "your name" are what the Guidelines mean by "place-holding characters", though the characters could presumably be just dummy character data, like "*", when intended just to deal with some old browsers' inability to treat initially _empty_ input fields properly. > If there is a difference between the two and I do not use > place-holding characters how can I achieve AAA accessibility? If you use initially empty input fields, you don't achieve AAA accessibility. One might say that you then need to decide between accessibility and compliance with some rules for accessibility. :-) For example, when asking for a person's name, there's no point in putting any initial value into the field _unless_ you have some information of what the user's name might be. -- Jukka Korpela TIEKE Tietoyhteiskunnan kehittämiskeskus ry Finnish Information Society Development Centre Salomonkatu 17 A, 10th floor, FIN - 00100 HELSINKI, FINLAND Phone: +358 9 4763 0397 Fax: +358 9 4763 0399 http://www.tieke.fi jukka.korpela@tieke.fi
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