- From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
- Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 07:48:43 -0400
- To: Tina Marie Holmboe <tina@elfi.org>, Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
- Cc: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
I'm not sure what the normal rules for quoting are, and I have no quarrel with a link that provides a way to march to a particular part of a page. I do however take issue with its miss use as the only way to full fill a requirement when there are many ways of achieving this even with small devices. When I learned html, one of the things I learned was how to mark up a long page so that points of interest could be gotten to rapidly. This was before wcag and before 508. It was done in the natural markup and in such a way as to not impeed anyone from seeing or getting to any point of interest on the page. I know that we are "way beyond" html at this point but I fail to see why it is necessary to continue to build pages without good structure and then to cludge them and to take this as a requirement to do so. The requirement does not say "use a skip nav link", It says to "provide a mechanism for allowing a user to navigate the page without the necessity of wading through it". This of course is a paraphrase in both instances but the intent is clear and the intent is not to say, Oh well, Oh, My, I've got this beautiful page or I have this great design so I'll just put this invisible link here so as not to confuse most of my users so that those using screen readers and other devices can "use" my pages. The skip nav link often throws me somewhere in the midst of a page from which I then have to orient myself. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Marie Holmboe" <tina@elfi.org> To: "Jim Thatcher" <jim@jimthatcher.com> Cc: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: Re: visibility of 'skip links' On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:08:19PM -0500, Jim Thatcher wrote: > removes guesswork. The skip link has nothing to do with keyboard access - it > is for blind access. If you can see the screen you can tab (very quickly) I would like to add that a 'skip to main content' link is not exclusively in the realm of access for visually impaired people. If the screen of the device used for 'surfing' is very small and the list of links very large, then a skip-link suddenly becomes a lifesaver. This may not fall fully in the realm of "accessibility for the disabled" but also in the "accessibility for devices upon where 15 links constitute 3-4 full screens" In addition .. may I, in the name of accessibility, request that we adopt the normal rules of quoting for this list ? -- - Tina Holmboe Greytower Technologies tina@greytower.net http://www.greytower.net/ [+46] 0708 557 905
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