- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 07:55:23 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Simon White <simon.white@jkd.co.uk>
- cc: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>, "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
There are sighted users out there (like me) who would like to be able to see it and use it in a normal graphical-rendering browser like Opera. If we can't see it we don't know we can use it. You can partially hide it - making it change colour with something like a:link.hidden { visibility:hidden } a:hover.hidden a:focus.hidden { /* something that makes it stand out */ } Peepo.com used this technique to avoid showing lots of alphabetical stuff at once. I suspect it might be a good compromise... cheers Chaals On Mon, 20 May 2002, Simon White wrote: Would it also be possible to add the link the same colour as the background so that it is hidden from sighted users, but those with screenreaders can still access it? -----Original Message----- From: David Poehlman [mailto:poehlman1@comcast.net] Sent: 20 May 2002 12:41 To: Scarlett Julian (ED); w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: visibility of 'skip links' perhaps rewording the link will help. Say something like "move to main content" and they get the idea? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk> To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:26 AM Subject: visibility of 'skip links' Hi all, just a quickie. I have a page (several actually) with a 'skip links' link at the top of the main nav menu. On showing this to some sighted users who I would assess as having limited experience of the internet but make up a sizeable proportion of my target audience I became aware that this link was confusing them. I therefore wanted to hide it and attached a css class with visibility set to hidden. Does doing this present any problems for the people that would benefit from a 'skip links' link. I'm pretty sure that screen readers will pick up the hidden link but just wanted to make sure. Any comments? tia Julian Julian Scarlett Web Design & Document Management System Officer PPU Education Directorate Sheffield City Council 0114 2735612 mob 07904914976 julian.scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk The information in this email is confidential. The contents may not be disclosed or used by anyone other than the addressee. If you are not the addressee, please tell us by using the reply facility in your email software as soon as possible. Sheffield City Council cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. If you suspect that the message may have been intercepted or amended please tell us as soon as possible. _____________________________________________________________________ VirusChecked by the Incepta Group plc _____________________________________________________________________ -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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