- From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
- Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:29:20 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
- cc: Nick Kew <nick@midgard.webthing.com>, Martin McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Jim Thatcher wrote: > Nick, OK, I'll correct you: > "For blind users, any kind of GUI would seem particularly pointless > (correct me if I'm wrong:-)." > > Far from pointless, the GUI offers standardized application controls, > leaving the problem of access to the "client area" of applications to the > ingenuity of screen reader developers. With text based applications every > application had to be specifically "scripted" or "profiled" in order to work > at all. in other words, lets make things complicated and difficult for a few blind users so people who can see can have some eye candy! > It is not a done deal for screen readers today because applications use > non-standard controls without appropriately taking care of that. And of > course the work areas of applications can be a disaster, no GUI can be used reliably, and easily by all screen readers > but it is a lot > better than the text based world as we knew it when OS/2 and Windows came > onto the scene. THAT is a matter of opinion! I ran DOS 6.2 up until two years ago when I switched to Linux, still have Dos on my laptop! Bob > > Jim > Accessibility Consulting > http://jimthatcher.com > 512-306-0931 > Constructing Accessible Web Sites, is now available at Amazon: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151000/jimthatcherco-20/! > I recommend it. It's a good book! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On > Behalf Of Nick Kew > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:49 PM > To: Martin McCormick > Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: Re: free/not free proprietary > > > > On Thu, 2 May 2002, Martin McCormick wrote: > > > I agree. Put simply, there is not presently a browser > > that works with script for UNIX users who do not use X windows. > > Making X windows accessible is a huge order. > > > > The minimum functionality should be a browser engine that > > can at least follow all links and call auxiliary programs to > > handle content that the browser can not display as text. > > For blind users, any kind of GUI would seem particularly pointless > (correct me if I'm wrong:-). So a commandline-based system with, > for example, Lynx+Pine+Speech would be an ideal way of getting > online. That is to say, subject to accessibility considerations. > > One of the goals of my accessibility proxy proposal is a javascript > engine that will deal with scripting-based links on behalf of users, > whether of Lynx or of any other browser without scripting, or > anyone in a security-conscious environment. > > -- > Nick Kew > ASCII Ribbon Campaign accessBob NO HTML/PDF/RTF in e-mail accessys@smartnospam.net NO MSWord docs in e-mail Access Systems, engineers NO attachments in e-mail, *LINUX powered* access is a civil right *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# THIS message and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be privileged. They are intended ONLY for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, Please notify the sender as soon as possible. Please DO NOT READ, COPY, USE, or DISCLOSE this communication to others and DELETE it from your computer systems. Thanks
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