- From: Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 02:16:02 +0000
- To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 18:11, Kynn Bartlett wrote: | At 2:06 PM +0000 12/26/01, Vadim Plessky wrote: | >The best solution, of course, would be to have *rendering engine* | > separated from *User Interface*. | >Than you can use same engine with Text Layout (terminal, DOS, your | >refrigirator on kitchen, whatever), Framebuffer (like QT/Embedded, | > SVGAlib or GTKembed) and normal 2D accelerated screen (XFree86, MacOS, | > Windows) So far, none of browser vendors achieved this. | >Opera, most likely, is the closest to this, but it seems they do not | > plan to make text-only browser. | | Vadim -- | | Shouldn't you be able to make a text-only browser from a properly | CSS3-compliant browser with an appropriate user style sheet? I think answer is 'yes'. But as many people expressed, they want (sometimes) text-only browser, not depending on any graphics library/GUI (wether it's X-Windowing System, MacOS or Windows) I think that something like SVGAlib is also acceptable. And it can be that QT/Embedded is also ok, I have heard that it takes just 2.5MB of memory, and that's ok even for low-end PDA or hypothetical microwave owen with web interface. To my best knowledge, Opera in Sharp Zaurus operates over QT/Embedded, and IMO it should be very good solution - fast and not consuming a lot of memory. Besides, Opera5 is better than MS IE4 (which is inside Windows CE on WinCE handhelds). Worth testing :-) * * * I recall some time when I was doing some 2D graphics library/GUI on 286/16MHz with 2MB (? 4MB) of memory, and it was pretty fast. In fact it was so fast that menus were disappearing *too fast* when I tested this program on 386/20MHz (I did mistake of hard-coding show/hide timeouts) [ Hint: I decided to get rid from both Borland's graphics library (BGI) and Microsoft's libs, an programmed EGA/VGA directly, via ports and interrupts; this gave excellent results - drawing speed was about 10 times fatser than in Borland libs and 2-3 times faster than MS ] So I think you can make browser supporting (basic) graphics and doing (core) layouting with requirements like this or slightly more. Question is wether it worth developing: as even PDAs have 200MHz CPU nowdays, and about 64MB of RAM. Anyway, all this doesn't answer question in subject: what should be "Minimal Browser Capabilities"... | | --Kynn -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
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