- From: Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
- Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 11:42:08 +0000
- To: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>, sethmr@bellatlantic.net, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 02:08, Kynn Bartlett wrote: | At 5:00 PM -0500 12/24/01, Seth Rothberg wrote: | >1. You ask how much work is needed to learn what degrading gracefully | > means. My answer is that it takes a little time and not much work. Do | > what every web page creator has been encouraged to do from day one: | > look at your page in multiple browsers and multiple versions of a given | > browser. Do you want to know what a linearized table looks like? Look | > at it in a browser that doesn't support tables. | | Seth, to play devil's advocate here, and I know that your answers were | off the cuff anyway, but... | | What suite of browsers would YOU recommend for testing, and on what | platforms? | | Some of you may know that I'm working on a book on CSS (Teach | Yourself Cascading Style Sheets in 24 Hours from SAMS). I sat down | to figure out what kind of testing I needed to do, as my goal is | (was?) to test out my examples on all reasonable browsers. So I | started making a list. | Kynn, that's why you should use my browser detection code, and not userAgent! Believe me, I tested a lot of sites, and browser detection via userAgent/platform really sucks! | It started like this: | | <testing> | <browser name="Netscape"> | <version number="4.X"/> | <version number="6.X"/> | </browser> | <browser name="IE"> | <version number="5.5"/> | </browser> | <browser name="Opera"> | <version number="5"/> | </browser> | </testing> | | Four browsers, pretty simple. Not simple at all. Thinking about | it further led to something like this: [...] | | You'll notice I'm completely leaving out anything having to do with | Windows CE, Palm, Solaris, BeOS, DOS, or other operating systems, | as well as not covering nearly every possible option. Which means | the above list is not complete either! | | Now let's include screenreaders in the mix, as well as browsers with | integrated screenreaders, like Home Page Reader! | | On second thought, let's not. | | You'll note that for this excerise, I'm _only_ talking about CSS | support. I'm not even touching JavaScript or HTML 4.01 support or | anything else, just those browsers which may be impacted by the | use of CSS. | | So, what do you guys think? Where should the line be drawn? detect DOM (doc.all, getElementById, etc.), than act accordingly | | --Kynn -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
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