- From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 15:24:47 -0500
- To: "Vadim Plessky" <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
In hard copy books i read, It says rredistribution in any form is prohibitted without the written concent of the publisher yada yada yada. We do not own the book. If we buy a house we may not even own the house because we cannot put a different colored door on it. However, if we buy a piece of land in the wilderness and build a home on it and everything in that home is built by our hands, we might just bearly own the home. This is of course, unless the bank holds a note on it. Ebooks are not ours to do with as we please according to what I understand of the rules that publishers employ to protect them. There are some exemptions in this country for educational purposes but those rules do not factor in the use of software to get around the conditions of software. One of the biggest reasons we have a problem with pdf is that very fact. were it not for that fact, adobe would just provide everything in such a way as to allow us access without having to go through msaa and locking in all sorts of safety mechanisms to be sure that the document is not altered or re-duplicated in some other form. This is half the problem we have with documents rendered with 5.0.5 even more so than with 4.05 and the access plug in. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vadim Plessky" <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru> To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com> Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility On Monday 24 December 2001 16:35, David Poehlman wrote: | we don't own them. we own the right to use them. if that means | altering them in some way, we technically violate the copy right. | Hello David! By "them", do you mean "e-Books" or ... everything? I have checked several normal, printed books I have on a bookshelf. There is nothing written on those books about "right to use them" or wether I own this book or not. I guess as soon as I passed checkpoint (cash register) in bookstore with that book (and paid for it) - I own that book. But of course I can't claim ownership for content, as its author is clearly indicated. Than I checked AudioCD. For example, I have "A song for you" CD. (p) and (c) Excelsior. ... Manufactured in the USA by Excelsior. WARNING: All rights reserved. Unauthored duplication is a violation of applicable laws. As you see, "duplication" is prohibited, but nothing is said about converting to other (different) formats, either to audio tape on cassette deck or to mp3 on hard drive. Now I want to return back to traditional books, as it's on-topic with subject. I think I have mentioned somewehere that Xerox manufacturers DocumentCenter (DC330, DC340) machines, which can *save to PDF* any document (with auto-feeding scanner) or book placed on the glass (you need to turn pages manually inthis case). I believe it's pretty legal when you bought book to have an electronic copy of it (either in PDF format, or converted further to HTML+CSS, or XHTML, or XML) Your house can disappear in fire (or in earthquake), together with books, bookshelfs, etc. But if you have electronic copy (placed supposely on your web server) - you still have it. And this, BTW, one of the key moving factors for the Internet Revolution. So I think possibility to make copy of book I won is my fundamental right, and transforming its content via some technical method (either screen reader or scan-to-PDF/convert-to-HTML method) is absolutely legal (and necessary, to prevent protection of my stuff in cases of fire, earthquake, etc.) | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Vadim Plessky" <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru> | To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com> | Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> | Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 1:33 PM | Subject: Re: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility | | | And Dmitry Sklyarov's case definitly comes here in mind. | What about e-Books? | Are the rights to read them *in a way you prefer* (like Screen Reder, or | with | increased/changed fonts) granted to us by the Constitution, or given by | Content Publisher? | | to rephrase my question: | Do you break any law by applying "publicly available free conversion | tools" | on some content which is *owned* by you? | (either you loaded it from the intrnet, or bought in shop/online, or | leased, | or rights to use this content was given to you by friend, etc.) | -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
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