- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 02:48:35 -0500 (EST)
- To: Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
- cc: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <www-svg@w3.org>
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Vadim Plessky wrote: It's Adobe pushing SVG as Flash replacement. I guess it isn't just Adobe - they have the most heavily promoted SVG stuff (plugin, authoring and export in lots of products) as far as I can see, but BitFlash, the Apache project, IBM, Sun, Mozilla, Corel, Amaya, SodiPodi (another open source project), sketch (and another), and others are all producing editors and/or browsers. In addition Semantic Web tools such as RDF author and GraphViz are generating SVG output - it is useful because it can include representations of complex data in ways that are nice for people to read, and can include the bits that machines can read and process easily. Also you should look at the W3C Technical Reports page section on Working drafts - there are several profiles of SVG in development which are more basic than the full SVG 1.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/#WD cheers Charles McCN They failed to catch up on Macromedia / Flash, and a whole web-animation market is leaded by Macromedia at a moment. It's a pity that there is no SVG-Core specification, which has only static objects (no animations, no sounds) and reasonable set of primitives - polygons, lines, beziers, circle, plus some set of gradient and standard fillings. Anyway, I doubt that SVG will be some replacement for HTML. First of all, SVG is well-formed XML, therefor browser supporting SVG should be able to parse XML as well. MS IE accepts a lot of broken HTML, but will report you an error on bad XML. If you have page designed in XML+CSS, than I doubt you need SVG unless you want to add something specific (circle, rotated rectangele, gradient, etc.) Problem is that web masters do not want (or don't know how) to design pages in XML+CSS. And 99.9% of all *real-world* pages (on Web) is not-valid HTML. :-(( | | There is a need for a static vector drawing language, as GIFs are not | really the right format for line drawings, but very few questions on | the SVG mailing list seem to assume that usage. | That's true. I think SVG-Core is what we need in order to make SVG mainstream. It's really stupid to use 10MB "plugin" just to draw rectangle or circle on the web page. All browsers (absolute minimum: MS IE and Netscape) should support such primitives, and complete SVG specification is obviously too *fat* for this. -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 617 258 5999 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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