- From: <james.homme@highmark.com>
- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:05:24 -0500
- To: "Hewitt, Denise" <Denise.Hewitt@idea.com>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
3.3 Use style sheets to control layout and presentation. [Priority 2] ( Checkpoint 3.3) Core Techniques: Structure vs. Presentation HTML Techniques: Emphasis CSS Techniques: Text instead of images CSS Techniques: Text formatting and position CSS Techniques: Layout, positioning, layering, and alignment That text seems clear that W3C expects us to lay out our pages with style sheets and not tables where tables are not used for their intended purpose. Given that it is so hard to make pages work in browsers that don't support style sheets fully, I don't see how it is practical to conform if we want to have anything other than a very simple layout because anything more would look so bad in some browsers. Jim James Homme, Manager, Assistive Technology, Bender Consulting Services, Inc., (412) 787-8567. jhomme@benderconsult.com. http://www.benderconsult.com Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom. "Hewitt, Denise" To: "'james.homme@highmark.com'" <james.homme@highmark.com> <Denise.Hewitt cc: @idea.com> Subject: RE: Style Sheets and Level 2 Conformance 10/31/2001 03:17 PM Our biggest problems were trying to get stuff to work in IE 4. The thing is, the guidelines are misleading in the way they are written. You *dont* have to abandon tables completely - you just have to make sure that the way a voice or text browser presents them makes sense. We decided in the end to do as best we could for a AA & Section 508 compliancy. Which specific checkpoints were you having issues with? Denise -----Original Message----- From: james.homme@highmark.com [mailto:james.homme@highmark.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:10 PM To: Hewitt, Denise Subject: RE: Style Sheets and Level 2 Conformance Hi, We tried to go to level 3 and could not make it work because IE4 kept freezing up and it looked very bad in Netscape 4.7. Jim James Homme, Manager, Assistive Technology, Bender Consulting Services, Inc., (412) 787-8567. jhomme@benderconsult.com. http://www.benderconsult.com Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom. "Hewitt, Denise" To: "'james.homme@highmark.com'" <james.homme@highmark.com> <Denise.Hewitt cc: @idea.com> Subject: RE: Style Sheets and Level 2 Conformance 10/31/2001 03:05 PM James, It can't be done right now, unfortunately. Between IE & Netscape, stuff is just implemented too differently. We were dealing with this with my company's website relaunch. We stripped out as much as we could, and managed to keep the tables very linear. But straight CSS only.. it was like beating our heads against the wall. www.idea.com I wish we could have done it all CSS, but I think we managed a decent job regardless. If you have specific questions on anything, I'd be glad to try and help. Best, Denise -----Original Message----- From: james.homme@highmark.com [mailto:james.homme@highmark.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:01 PM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Style Sheets and Level 2 Conformance Hi, Does anyone know of some sample site or sites where no tables are used to lay out the pages so that it or they are in conformance with W3C Level AA that works in the major browsers? Thanks. Jim James Homme, Manager, Assistive Technology, Bender Consulting Services, Inc., (412) 787-8567. jhomme@benderconsult.com. http://www.benderconsult.com Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom.
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