- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:52:01 -0700
- To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>
- Cc: "Simon White" <simon.white@jkd.co.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
At 09:44 AM 10/9/2001 , David Poehlman wrote: >you hit it on the head. <slang> Let's approach it from the beginning >non mouse user's point of view or from the point of view of cognition. >Click here does not tell me what to do. Sure it does. Why are you assuming only mice can click? And are there any users out there who honestly are confused and come to a halt when they encounter "click here" and who would be easier able to "follow this link"? I think not. This is a non-issue. It's like saying "see you later" to a group of friends that includes a blind person. Sure, if you want to be willfully ignorant you could take it literally and object "NO I WON'T SEE YOU LATER", or you could just understand that it's meant to mean something non-literal. If I'm on a chat room I will often say "See you later" if someone logs off. But OH NO, I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SEEN THEM AT ALL, since they're across the country or world! Big deal -- this is just terminology, and at BEST someone who chooses to be oversensitive will get their feelings hurt. Irrationally hurt feelings are not accessibility, though, nor are they usability. You can click with a keyboard. You can click with nearly any access device, and those devices specifically produce the effect of a "click". "Click" doesn't mean "use a mouse", and if you think it does, then you're being overly literal, and if you think it introduces accessibility barriers because "not everyone clicks" then I think you are in some sort of fantasy land. I prefer to live in the land of REAL accessibility problems and REAL usability problems and not dwell on hypothetical situations. Okay, so who here has seen the words "click here" and just sat there staring at the screen (or listening to the output), helpless, unable to figure out what to do? How long did you sit there before leaving the web site or giving up entirely, because you said "I HAVE NO MOUSE AND I MUST CLICK?" No, the answer is, even if you felt sad because you had no mouse, you understood -- or quickly learned -- what "click here" means. It's not an accessibility problem, pure and simple, and it removes usability barriers in some cases. So let's not fight the "click here" term and spend our energy on real problems. --Kynn -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com> Technical Developer Liaison Reef North America Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network ________________________________________ BUSINESS IS DYNAMIC. TAKE CONTROL. ________________________________________ http://www.reef.com
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