- From: Joel Sanda <joels@ecollege.com>
- Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 14:53:38 -0600
- To: "'Joe Clark '" <joeclark@contenu.nu>, "'w3c-wai-ig@w3.org '" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Joe Clark wrote: JC These lists of highly specific defined terms and cases are ridiculous and entirely unhelpful. If you demand illustrations, "concrete concepts" (an oxymoron) are not the only thing requiring illustration. The entire enterprise of selecting just these terms here and there as a focus, and the even more risible attempts to define them, bring the Guidelines into disrepute. It is absurd to provide this level of specificity. Joel Sanda JS Well ... what good is a checklist if it isn't specific? You can't "check" items on a "list" if they're not there. When you make a shopping list do you say "dairy", "grain", and "protein"? When you plan a vacation do you say "Western Hemisphere"? When you write a book about web accessibility and don't give "highly specific defined terms and cases" will anyone be able to use it if it is a generalized description of ill-defined terms and ideas? Concepts can be clearly defined and self-evident (like "obsessif-curmudgeon") or they can be not clearly defined and not self-evident (like "dermatology fetishist"). A concrete concept is one that leaves little doubt as to its meaning and purpose. Another illustration: the concept "journalist". Why that could mean just about anyone with a pencil and paper or keyboard and modem these days. JC: If I write about "Vasoline" by the Stone Temple Pilots, do I have to provide a 3 MB MP3 of that song on my piddling little server with its piddling little bandwidth? JS: No, and I think I took care of that sort of interpretation when I suggested the guidelines instruct the developer to ensure the additional non-text element contribute to the understanding of the material. For example, adding a picture to illustrate the phrase "dermatology fetishist" would probably interest more people than a picture illustrating the phrase "obsessif-curmudgeon". JC: I mean, it's a sound, right? JS: Yes, it is, but it's other things, as well. A bunch of words in a book doesn't make it a book - it's just a bunch of words, right? JC: you'll be telling us "When referencing cuisine, prepare actual food for tasting." JS: Actually, I'd suggest a picture. However, if you're roasting wild pig on the beach with a bunch of boisterous people partying a sound clip of the event may also be pleasing to the listener. Depending upon who is doing the talking, of course.
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