- From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
- Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:48:03 -0500
- To: "Marti" <marti@agassa.com>, "Robert Neff" <robneff@home.com>, "IG" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
At 02:37 PM 2001-03-04 -0500, Marti wrote: >Caution here - stopping the gif also stops the download of the page (at >least in IE and NN) not really an optimum solution. >Marti AG:: I think that's why Rob asked Adam for example techniques. I think that they are talking about things like un-checking "play animations" under Internet Options / Advanced in IE. Not hitting the View / Stop command interactively. The User Agent Accessibility Guidelines [at least as of the current working group draft] does say that suppressing the animation is a function the User Agent should offer. 3. Allow configuration not to render some content that [...] <http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/UAAG10/#gl-feature-on-off>http://www.w3.org/WAI/ UA/UAAG10/#gl-feature-on-off Al > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Neff" <robneff@home.com> >To: "IG" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> >Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:48 PM >Subject: Re: Animated GIFs and accessibility guidelines > > >> adam, >> >> do you have a list of 'how to stop' animated browsers with different web >> browsers? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ADAM GUASCH-MELENDEZ" <ADAM.GUASCH@EEOC.GOV> >> To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> >> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:52 AM >> Subject: Re: Animated GIFs and accessibility guidelines >> >> >> > Animated GIFs shouldn't be a problem, since they can be stopped by any >> browser that can display them (at least among the major browsers - I'm not >> sure if this is true for WebTV or other "internet appliances"). >> > >> > On the Bobby site, listing the sponsors wouldn't be appropriate for the >> ALT text, but would be appropriate for a LONGDESC. The designers may have >> decided that since the image is a link to detailed information about their >> sponsors, that wasn't necessary. I'd say it's a judgement call, and an >> defensible choice. However, running Bobby against that page, in the >Priority >> 1 User Checks it says: >> > >> > "Do you have a descriptive (D) link in addition to LONGDESC?" >> > >> > which - regardless of conformance with the WAI guidelines - suggests >that >> the site doesn't actually implement what the Bobby designers consider to >be >> "best practices." There are several other areas, such as in the extensive >> use of tables for layout, where the site appears to move away from >> theoretical ideals. On the other hand, the site seems to work, which to me >> is by far the most important concern. The WAI guidelines, are, after all, >> guidelines. They're intended to help people develop accessible sites, but >if >> the focus becomes adherence to every checkpoint, instead of the overall >goal >> of accessibility, they've failed in their purpose. >> > >> > Another question related to that site - they've got a link to skip the >> navigation stuff and go directly to the content, which is great. The link, >> however, is a transparent gif, with the ALT text providing the description >> of how it's to be used. Will screen readers currently in use pick this up >> properly? >> > >> > >>> Brian Kelly <b.kelly@ukoln.ac.uk> 02/15/01 04:08AM >>> >> > Guideline 7 at >> > <http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/>http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/ >> > says >> > "Ensure that moving, blinking, scrolling, or auto-updating objects or >> pages >> > may be paused or stopped." >> > and >> > "Until user agents allow users to freeze moving content, avoid movement >in >> > pages." >> > >> > How does this apply to animated GIFs? >> > >> > Does it apply, for example, to the animated sponsorship ads at, for >> example, >> > <http://www.cast.org/bobby/>http://www.cast.org/bobby/ >> > >> > I understood that movement on screens could cause screen readers to lose >> > their focus. Does this happen with animated GIFs? If so, is this a >> > concern? >> > >> > Also, while looking at the Bobby page, the alt text for the GIF simply >> says >> > "Scrolling list of sponsors, without mentioning their names (IBM, >> Microsoft, >> > etc.). Again does this conform to the WAI guidelines? >> > >> > Like Nick, I don't want to pick on the Bobby site or the CAST staff, but >> it >> > is a Web site that those with interests in accessibility will look at. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Brian (hoping this isn't an FAQ) >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Brian Kelly >> > UKOLN >> > University of Bath >> > BATH >> > BA2 7AY >> > Email: B.Kelly@ukoln.ac.uk >> > Phone: (+44) 1225 323943 >> > >> > >> >> >> >
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