- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:53:44 -0800
- To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>
- Cc: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>From: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
>To most people, HTML doesn't mean what it means to W3C. Most
>people,
>including many asking off topic questions on the www-html list,
>think
>HTML is the document object model, CSS, or even Flash. Basically,
>the
>popular notion of HTML is anything except plain text, full screen
>images, and possibly PDF, that produces an effect on Internet
>Explorer.
At 04:30 AM 1/20/2001 , David Poehlman wrote:
>so they don't read dictionaries?
HTML is in the dictionary? Most people don't sit down and think
of web design as absolute distinct entities, no. They don't dwell
on the tools (by which I mean the languages, the tags, the editors,
the browsers) as being more important than the final -effect-. What
they are after is the end result.
I know of no one who gets paid simply to "use" HTML, for example, and
not produce results. Nor do I know of anyone who has ever gotten
a raise because, while their project didn't work, at least they
used syntactically correct code.
I can easily see how "HTML" can be considered "those things you do
in order to make a web page or site", especially as we ourselves are
demanding that people expand their knowledge of web design -- e.g.
by mandating the use of CSS. If something's in my .html document,
how do I know it's not HTML? How is <font size="+1"> different from
<div style="font-size: larger">, really? They both "look like HTML
to me."
--Kynn
PS: I know it's easy to decide that they're all ignorant dummies
and feel superior to them, but how much does that really
accomplish if we refuse to see the needs of people doing "bad
web design" and assume it's just because they suck? This is
the same thing as the WYSIWYG arguments; we need to consider
other people's perspectives as valid for them, and understand
them, if we wish for -them- to understand -our- perspectives.
--
Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com> http://kynn.com/
Technical Developer Relations, Reef http://www.reef.com/
Chief Technologist, Idyll Mountain Internet http://idyllmtn.com/
Contributor, Special Ed. Using XHTML http://kynn.com/+seuxhtml
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