- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:53:44 -0800
- To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>
- Cc: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>From: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk> >To most people, HTML doesn't mean what it means to W3C. Most >people, >including many asking off topic questions on the www-html list, >think >HTML is the document object model, CSS, or even Flash. Basically, >the >popular notion of HTML is anything except plain text, full screen >images, and possibly PDF, that produces an effect on Internet >Explorer. At 04:30 AM 1/20/2001 , David Poehlman wrote: >so they don't read dictionaries? HTML is in the dictionary? Most people don't sit down and think of web design as absolute distinct entities, no. They don't dwell on the tools (by which I mean the languages, the tags, the editors, the browsers) as being more important than the final -effect-. What they are after is the end result. I know of no one who gets paid simply to "use" HTML, for example, and not produce results. Nor do I know of anyone who has ever gotten a raise because, while their project didn't work, at least they used syntactically correct code. I can easily see how "HTML" can be considered "those things you do in order to make a web page or site", especially as we ourselves are demanding that people expand their knowledge of web design -- e.g. by mandating the use of CSS. If something's in my .html document, how do I know it's not HTML? How is <font size="+1"> different from <div style="font-size: larger">, really? They both "look like HTML to me." --Kynn PS: I know it's easy to decide that they're all ignorant dummies and feel superior to them, but how much does that really accomplish if we refuse to see the needs of people doing "bad web design" and assume it's just because they suck? This is the same thing as the WYSIWYG arguments; we need to consider other people's perspectives as valid for them, and understand them, if we wish for -them- to understand -our- perspectives. -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com> http://kynn.com/ Technical Developer Relations, Reef http://www.reef.com/ Chief Technologist, Idyll Mountain Internet http://idyllmtn.com/ Contributor, Special Ed. Using XHTML http://kynn.com/+seuxhtml Unofficial Section 508 Checklist http://kynn.com/+section508
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