- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net>
- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:02:39 -0500
- To: "Bruce Bailey" <bbailey@clark.net>
- Cc: WAI Interest Group Emailing List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
aloha, bruce! the problem -- from my point of view -- with ALT text such as quote Jump to MD TAP unquote is that it doesn't communicate anything to anyone who is unaware of what MD TAP means... that the hyperlink contains a TITLE is quite commendable, but since access to the information contained in a TITLE defined for a hyperlink is currently available to a user only under specific circumstances -- such as the ability to use a pointing device, use of screen-reader X with browser Y, use of a targeted user agent, etc. -- might it not make sense to use the same text for both the TITLE associated with the hyperlink _and_ the ALT text associated with the graphic? there is, also, the issue of ensuring backwards compatibility, as well... you wrote, quote I have also gotten the advice (also from someone on this list, my apologies for forgetting who) that ALT associated with a link should use a verb. quote whether or not you feel the need to use a verb in your ALT text is up to you... what you should keep in mind is that -- in the case of a graphical hyperlink -- what is most important is providing the user with sufficient information so that he or she can make an informed decision as to whether or not to follow the link... the only hard-and-fast rule when it comes to ALT text is one that i used to state as quote use common sense unquote, but which i have amended to quote use uncommon sense unquote you also wrote, quote The IMG in question is a take on their logo that incorporates the letters "M D" and "T A P". The graphic gives no clue as to what "MD TAP" might be, so "Jump to MD TAP" seems like very appropriate ALT tag content to me. Should ALT contain _more_ information than is contained by the image? unquote then perhaps the MD TAP logo isn't sufficient -- i emailed a sighted colleague who just happens to be a graphic artist who works as a commercial designer for a major american corporation, and asked her to take a look at the page... while her comments on the page were overall positive (which is an achievement in and of itself, as she is a very harsh critic when it comes to web design) she told me that -- with the exception of the "Electronic Library" button -- the meaning of the buttons that appear at the bottom of the page are not readily apparent from their graphical content... she emphasized that the buttons ALT texted Jump to MSDE and Jump to MD TAP, in particular, were quite cryptic, and her first impulse was to point at them and hope for informative ALT text would pop up in the form of a ToolTip! the letters MD TAP on the last button, she observed, are so small and indistinct that it was difficult for her to discern them -- a point that she underscored by admitting that she probably wouldn't have noticed that they were there if i hadn't told her (based on the information you provided me in your emessage) that they are there... she also added that the color contrast on the Sailor button isn't very good, and that the word "Maryland" in the "Electronic Capital" button didn't separate well from the background... all of which leads me to conclude that, perhaps, part of ensuring interoperability may be considering the following question -- is the meaning of this graphic readily apparent to anyone sees it? bruce, by airing my comments on-list, i do not mean to denigrate your efforts -- on the contrary, the DORS page is quite an impressive piece of handiwork, for which you should be commended... i only wish to provide you with constructive criticism, or -- at least -- a different "point of view", gregory. --------------------------------------------------------------- Existentialism means that no one else can take a bath for you. -- Delmore Schwartz --------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/ VICUG NYC: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/ Read 'Em & Speak: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/books/ ---------------------------------------------------------------
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