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RE: What generates a .cfm page?

From: Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:44:48 -0400
Message-ID: <01BF1674.3FFE21A0.bbailey@clark.net>
To: "'Charles McCathieNevile'" <charles@w3.org>, "'Web Accessibility Initiative'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Such fast answers.  I love this list!

> There is also a product called "Cold Fusion Studio", which is an 
> tool for producing cold fusion pages.
> Cold Fusion provides, and I believe Cold Fusion Studio makes extensive 
> of, a number of Java applets, scripts, etc. for producing pages to use 
> Cold Fusion.
> This is more likely to be the problem, and if you can get the developers 
> commit to producing accessible pages they can do it with Cold Fusion.

Charles, I agree with your conclusion that this is the heart of the matter. 
 I suspect GWU just has a bunch of students running the show.  How bad are 
the built-in / sample scripts (etc.) that ship with the product?  Okay, so 
you can do it, but about how much work is it to make Cold Fusion produce 
pages that parse through the W3C validator or meet the Priority 1 
checkpoints of the WCAG?  Is it relatively easy (if one is aware of the 
issues) or does one really have to fight with the package?  (FrontPage, for 
example, really makes it difficult to produce clean pages!  So much so, 
that one has to wonder "why bother?")  Is the utilization of frames endemic 
to Cold Fusion, or is that GWU's own bad idea?

> In the case of Cold Fusion it is easy enough to write by hand, and can be
> used to create any kind of page, from completely inaccessible to 
> accessible - I have used it for building a picture gallery with extensive
> alternative content as a demonstration of an accessible site, and for
> building an accessible payroll data entry system.

Can anyone point me to any resources on how to use Cold Fusion to follow 
the WCAG?  Charles, is any of your good .cfm stuff available for browsing 
by civilians over the internet?  Can anyone point me to a site that uses 
.cfm and is accessible?  The Allaire home page is certainly not a good 

> Cold Fusion is a piece of server-side software that allows web pages to 
> dynamically generated from a database. This is the same kind of thing 
that is
> now also done by quite a lot of server software - Domino, Active Server
> Pages, PHP scripting, etc.

Is GWU better off pitching Cold Fusion for something else?  (If so, this 
will be a tough sell.)

Thanks again.
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