- From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@crosslink.net>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:48:59 -0400
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
At 06:26 PM 6/10/1999 -0700, Kynn Bartlett wrote: >>I would include any sites that provide useful local information, such as >>bus, train, airline, or TV schedules. Whether the sites that collect PHD >>dissertations are accessible is not my concern because they do not usually >>include information of interest to the population in question. > >When you start making judgment calls such as this is where you >venture into shaky ground -- I've heard many designers of highly >graphical web sites state that they don't have to make their >sites accessible to the blind, because the blind aren't their >target audience. Before you can disqualify certain people from >"access" to a certain site, you need to be careful you're not >deciding _for them_. I was trying to be a bit accommodating to those who are aghast at the idea of providing accessibility to people they feel themselves better than. Thus it >is important that all levels of a web site have at least minimal >functional accessibility. Good point. Again, I was trying to minimize the aghastness! >Do you believe that a site's "accessibility" (understandability) >should be dependent upon the intended audience, the actual audience, >or a theoretical "minimal standard" for the web, such as writing all >material for the WWW at a third grade (U.S. education system) >reading level? Depends on the content. The actual audience should be the target, and some information needs to comply with a "minimal standard" because the actual audience is broad enough to include those who would need the 3rd grade level. >Can you offer any advice to web authors that would help them >determine beforehand what comprehension level to aim for, or, >like you, will they need to continually assess their sites and >see if simplification/"dumbing down" of all content is >necessary? Again, it depends on content, but a pretty good "rule of thumb" would be to aim for a 5/6th grade reading level for complex information and a 3/4th grade level for basic necessary information (such as how to apply for an SSI check or food stamps). Some book publishers stretch the limits by including definitions, explanations, and pictures for words that go past the limit. This is easy to do on the web, allowing the user to click on the word for meaning either in text, or perhaps on a sound bite, would make it possible to present a text with a higher reading level that can be used by someone functioning on a lower level. > >Is it advisable to offer different versions of the same information, >at different reading levels? E.g., here's one for 7th grade reading >level, here's one for 3rd? (BTW, it occurs to me that this part >of the discussion might be opaque to those of you who are un- >familiar with the US education system. When I was in grade N, >I was N+5 years old, if that helps for reference.) If you chose >such a route, how would you label such levels without being >insulting? Kids don't usually understand such things as "reading levels", but they do follow age levels. The hitch comes when a ten-year old needs material written for an eight year old, and it worsens when a sixteen year old discovers he/she can understand only the eight year old version. Perhaps just "Easy" "Regular" and "Detailed" (with of course corresponding icons), would work. The idea of different versions is a very good one. Detailed could be at an upper high school or college reading level with appropriate maps and charts (minimum), and regular at 6-8th grade with moderate levels of multi-media, with easy at about 2-3rd grade with maximum graphics, sound bites, etc. [For non-US: grade = form. grade = age - five]. To accommodate the range of needs, another level for Post Graduate may be necessary ... I'm seeing the things I need to do to the Five Forks site on the next update .... determine what level each page is at, and develop the other levels ... hmmmm.... sounds like something I'd need to find a grant to cover the development of ... a lot of work ... (and I originally set out to do a quick little project to show teachers how easy it is to do a web page with content - esp. quick - but it never ends - it always needs upgrading to the newest ideas and possibilities, plus addition of photos from descendents of participants who e-mail me from the site!- doing the presentation wasn't the end of the project!) Whew, it's getting late, and I've been on this thread it seems like all evening. I was to expect a lot of work to bring my ideas to this forum, and I believe it! Have a good evening, or good day whenever you get this... Anne Anne L. Pemberton http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Pav/Academy1 http://www.erols.com/stevepem/apembert apembert@crosslink.net Enabling Support Foundation http://www.enabling.org
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