- From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@crosslink.net>
- Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:42:10 -0400
- To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Cc: Jeff Guillaume <JeffG@PMI1.COM>
Folks, Like Jeff, this is my first post to the list. I've been reading it about a week. I moved to this list to get a broader perspective on the accessibility issues than I was able to get from a list that I thought was discussing the full spectrum of accessibility, but turned out to be dedicated only to the needs and wants of the blind. My interest in accessibility is because I'm doing a web site for a group that is focused on accessibility for the disabled. I am delighted to see that Jonathan Chetwynd (sp) is a part of this discussion, as I think his efforts to bring another group of disabled (one that is dear to my heart due to years of teaching with the HS aged portion of this population). >On Fri, 21 May 1999, Jeff Guillaume wrote: > Question #2: And now for something completely different. > > I was going to separate this into an entirely different thread, but it > relates to what I just said. I have seen on numerous pages the use of a > 1-pixel by 1-pixel transparent GIF to use as a spacer (especially in > tables, but not exclusively). I was just reading an article on c|net's > Builder.com about how the use of <TABLE> has taken on a whole new > purpose, one that it wasn't designed for. Many people are using this > 1-pixel transparent GIF to force a table to a certain width or height, > or even just for color or design sake. Go to http://www.voyager.net > (search for pixel.gif in the source) for an example. I have found this GIF appear in pages I've created using MS Publisher98. With a little experimenting, I discovered they were used to create the spacing that made a difference between the page appearing properly spaced to the sighted user. Unable to tag this images in Publisher (or I haven't found it yet!), I tagged them after the pages were created by Publisher into HTML. I have tagged these images ALT="blank", but have noticed that a better way would be ALT="" ... After viewing the pages both with and without the blanks, I'd rather hassle with the HTML code than leave them off because the provide important accessibility and understanding to the sighted users of a page. > This has been a perfect solution for designing a page to look the way > you want (I've even used this method). However, this is very bad for > accessibility. Yet another example of change that lots of Webmasters > won't appreciate. In light of the above comments, I am confused that this would be considered "very bad for accessibility". The blanks seem to me to be helpful for "accessibility" to the disability community and wider community who are sighted and need proper spacing in order to best comprehend the information presented. I am also concerned with providing pages that work as well when printed as when viewed on a screen. As an educator, I use print outs from the web as a learning resource. In the local schools, the Internet is available at a limited number of computers in the high school, and has yet to become available in the lower schools. Some sites that are in wonderful colors for the screen provide a link to a printable version which I've found very useful. In truth, I have found mimimal information available on the web that is suitable for younger students. When I tried to use the web to supplement my 7-yr-old nephew's need to learn about "ancient egypt", we were very disappointed. The graphics were too few, and the text, although abundent, was all written above his head even when I read them to him. I'm not sure if its an "accessibility" issue to address the needs of youthful students, or just a matter of development of the web in the K-12 arena. I'd welcome other thoughts on the issue. Anne Anne L. Pemberton http://www.erols.com/stevepem/apembert apembert@crosslink.net Enabling Support Foundation http://www.enabling.org
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