- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:08:11 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Brian Kelly <b.kelly@ukoln.ac.uk>
- cc: Greg Lowney <greglo@microsoft.com>, WAI IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
I don't think maintenance is much of an issue in situations where production is sufficiently automated. The issue is about creating seperate classes of site - although text-and-audio only serves blind users, and text only serves deaf blind users, they do not address the needs of other groups such as people with cognitive impairments. It is indeed true that the situation is one of creating a site which has multiple formats, as Greg pointed out. The problem is that removal of some accessibility barriers in one format, and some in another, can often allow some barriers to remain unnoticed in both formats. In addition there is the very real possibility of creating a separate but inferior site for some groups of people, to a much greater extent than their needs (or state of the technology) dictate. The idea of an accessible design is that it can be rendered as text only, but need not be. Some of the newer features of HTML - the OBJECT element which allows for a cascade of different types of object, CSS positioning and formatting which gives the author great power in crafting the rendering of a website while allowing the user to ensure that their needs are met, are examples. [* My prediction...*] As XML applications which have been designed from the ground up to be accessible become more common, along with browsers which can render them appropriately for users, the idea of a "text-only" version of a site will seem more and more like an evolutionary dead end which denies the richest possible experience available to users, and we will see much more accessible sites which are written to take advantage of the various methods for user selection of suitable content types. With regards to a hot-key to switch between versions, which is only accessible to newer browsers (i assume it is an HTML Accesskey), why not add a link and use display:none to hide it, for compatibility with older browsers? (Until Lynx stops being the browser of last resort for people who are blind, for example. This is just an idle thought - I appreciate that there is also value in pushing people towards adopting better technology where possible.) And to answer Brain's question, the general mission of WAI is to provide accessibility for people with disabilities. Although there are side benefits for all kinds of other areas (robots, mobile devices, internationalisation, etc.) work which is directed at those other areas is beyond the scope of the current guidelines activities as I understand them. my 2c worth Charles McCathieNevile On Fri, 21 May 1999, Brian Kelly wrote: > I agree that a text-only site would be a disservice to the majority of > users, and less accessible to many, if it replaced the fully-formatted site, > or did not contain all the information, or was not kept up-to-date. However, > it seems to me that a parallel text-only site adds considerable value when > those pitfalls are avoided. I agree that a text-only representation of a web site shouldn't be automatically dismissed. A paper at last year's WWW conference gave an example of providing a text-only version of resources which are intended to be indexed by robots. Maintenance is an issue, but if this is done on-the-fly or by backend batch processing (rather than manually - which we know is unlikely to be maintained) this shouldn't be a major problem. Architecturally it's a bit of a fudge, but it may be a useful pragmatic solution. BTW is accessibility for robot software covered by the User-agent guidelines? Brian ------------------------------------------------------ Brian Kelly, UK Web Focus UKOLN, University of Bath, BATH, England, BA2 7AY Email: b.kelly@ukoln.ac.uk URL: http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/ Homepage: http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/ukoln/staff/b.kelly.html Phone: 01225 323943 FAX: 01225 826838 --Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +1 617 258 0992 http://www.w3.org/People/Charles W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI MIT/LCS - 545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139, USA
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