- From: Robert Neff <rcn@fenix2.dol-esa.gov>
- Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:13:44 -0400
- To: "'Bruce Bailey'" <bbailey@clark.net>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Cc: "T. V. Raman" <raman@Adobe.COM>
I have found PDF to be an asset - when used right. I can deliver a document that can be seen AND PRINTED by anyone with the viewer. This can deliver technical and graphical documents and display tables, graphs, and graphics. I have had to prepare and post many technical documents while maintaining content and security and this was the easiest solution. See http://www.dtic.mil/jwars/library.html - I have since moved on. PDF was a blessing. We received multiple formats and were able to post to the web with ease. At that time the HTML authoring tools were ancient. Though they have improved, I do not wish to think of the mess if I still had to put these up in HTML. Oh, I could post them in HTML and make graphics out of the images and tables... But I could not guarantee they would print right! PDF has its uses! Please note, at the time of the documents' creation, WAI was not well known. If I had to do it all over, I would still convert the files to PDF and post, but then I would also then convert to HTML and post. We used the bookmarks and thumbnail. We would not use it for every file as this increase the file size. /rob -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Bailey [SMTP:bbailey@clark.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 10:41 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Cc: T. V. Raman Subject: Re: Adobe And TRACE Launch Enhanced PDF Access Via Email If this is what people want, then it is doubtless a good thing that you have made it available. IMHO: 1) Far too many web authors favor form over content and that PDF facilitates this. PDF is reminiscent of frames -- another bad idea that just won't go away. 2) The majority of PDF documents don't use the available features (like thumbnails and bookmarks). The most common rational for the use of PDF is to force multiple columns (an okay idea in print, a lousy idea on the screen). A document's file size is increased by roughly a factor of ten (over the plain text version). The cost/benefit ratio of PDF is extremely poor, so much so that it must be obvious, even to dunderheads. 3) The form-based tool is compatible with Lynx and the Access plug-in for the Acrobat Reader works with screen readers. The conversion algorithm has the same flaws in any case as the email version. I am curious about where my logic is flawed. I've read the Adobe propaganda, and I must confess that I just don't get it. In my web-surfing experience, PDF are becoming less common (thank goodness). I understand that PDF predates HTML and that some important sites are wedded to the PDF concept (usually sites that see their mission as providing print resources and not information). I don't understand why the request for email conversion was so popular. Doubtless this has all been debated before. I do not want to generate a lot of traffic on this news group about this issue. I would like to be directed to resources that address my questions and concerns. Is there a news group dedicated to PDF? Better yet would be a web site that is not run by Adobe. Best would be an archive (of discussion threads) where those of us who are new to the PDF vs HTML debate can go to get up to speed. Thanks. T. V. Raman wrote: > Adobe And TRACE Launch Enhanced PDF Access Via Email > --New service enables conversion via email attachments > (http://access.adobe.com) > > Adobe Systems and the TRACE Research Center are happy to > announce a new service to enhance the accessibility of PDF > documents to visually impaired users. > > Ever since we launched our popular server-based > accessibility solutions on http://access.adobe.com in > March 1997, the single most oft voiced request has been the need > to convert PDF documents on a local disk or CDROM to ASCII > or HTML. In response, we have set up a a conversion service > hosted by the TRACE Research Center (http://trace.wisc.edu). > > You can send PDF documents as email attachments to: > > pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu -- for plain text > pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu -- for HTML > > and receive the result of the conversion in the reply. > > Adobe would like to thank Dr. Gregg Vanderheiden and the > TRACE Research Center for helping us host this service. > > Attached is a summary of accessibility services provided by > Adobe. Our WWW site (http://access.adobe.com) has been > revised in conjunction with the launch of this new service; > please take a momement to visit us and refresh your > bookmarks. > > --Raman (and the access.adobe.com team) [Deleted]
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