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Re: Using htlm editors to produce clean code?

From: Eileen Bonfiglio <pinesnet@putergirl.com>
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:49:04 -0700
Message-ID: <355B66D0.66B01B9C@putergirl.com>
To: Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>
CC: "'Web Accessibility Initiative'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Hi Bruce,

I have used many of the editors in search of one I can train clerks and secretaries to
use simply, and correctly, CorelWebMaster is the only product to date that makes it
through the W3C and Bobby on a first pass for HTML 3.2.(4 star rating - notes the use
of "Face" tag in font, but does not affect rating) , 4.0 gives you many options to
validate to, Frontpage flies through loose but fails everything else, too much code.

Take a look at http://www.putergirl.com/ppp/ done with Corel WebMaster (and NotePad-
for minor personal preference changes, I can't help myself).  You will notice, I
elected to leave the image size out of the code in this case, as the pictures change
frequently and wanted to have a valid, easy to update site.

Hot Metal produces a good product providing you know what you are doing, but it also
has its quirky code patterns, lots of <P> tags everywhere to make your test and table
lines askew.  IMHO, too much rework.  Worth a look is Allaire Homesite, some people
find that easy to work in.

Let me know how the project goes,

Bruce Bailey wrote:

> Has anybody had success using Microsoft FrontPage or Navigator Gold to
> generate html code that parses through Bobby or the W3C Validator without
> errors?
> I am confortable with html and text editors, but I need to find tools that
> our secretaries can use without learning html.
> Front Page generates way too much extraneous code and actually makes it
> difficult to put in good alt text.  It's really overkill for what I am
> looking for, since it is site-oriented instead of page oriented.  I
> envision giving responsibility for one-page-per-person for our site
> (eventually -- smile).  Communicator's editor is not too bad from this
> point.  You really can browse a site live, edit, publish -- all without
> knowing many details.  I hate that Communicator favors appearance tags vice
> logical ones (<B> and <I> instead of <STRONG> and <EM>), but only fails me
> on two points:
>         1)  It won't include the <!DOCTYPE... statement
>         2)  It puts nbsp; after graphics in table cells which causes a Bobby error
> since my tables now mix graphics and text.
> Does anyone know how to defeat either of the above two behaviors?
> I understand HoT MetaL pro has a built-in validator, but I have not gotten
> a hold of it yet.  Any praise for this product?
> Thanks very much for your time.
> Bruce Bailey
> www.dors.state.md.us
Received on Thursday, 14 May 1998 14:50:44 UTC

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