- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charlesn@sunrise.srl.rmit.edu.au>
- Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 12:28:21 +1000 (EST)
- To: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
- cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Liam is right about NOSCRIPT adding stuff into pages. LONGDESC does not seem to be appropriate for scripts, and I do not see another way around the problem. In general terms, many users are coming across things they cannot 'see' all the time - I use lynx at home because I have no other Internet access - I can see images when I am at work, and would quite like to know what I should mark for reviewing or download. The javascript problem is a bit trickier - there are a few things that should be added for accessibility beyond just referring the browser to an image, but I think Liam has provided the pointer towards the best solution. The point of a NOSCRIPT is to decribe a script. Having thought about it a little more, I would usually place the description in comments anyway, which obviates the need for NOSCRIPT. Charles McCathieNevile I wrote, Liam responded: > CMCCN:: > >Nonsense. The NOSCRIPT above is perfectly appropriate. Imagine (for > >example) a Javascript capable browser, which has scripts temporarily > >disabled. The use of NOSCRIPT to the extent I have described would enable > >a user to determine whether scripts should be enabled or not. > > LQ:: Imagine a browser which has scripts permanently disabled. The use of > NOSCRIPT to the extent you have described provides an unnecessary > distraction while reminding the user that the Web doesn't cater to such > people. > CMCCN:: > >In addition, describing the action of a script is like using a LONGDESC > >for an image > > LQ:: Then push for a LONGDESC attribute for SCRIPT. NOSCRIPT is for > alternate content, and alternate content is not a description of what the > user's missing. > CMCCN:: > >An example of where NOSCRIPT might make a difference is at > >http://www.srl.rmit.edu.au/peterbat/roaringforties/index.html > > LQ:: All this page has to do is use the image URI in the HREF and add > "return false" to the "change" function. Then the page transparently > provides an alternative to the script, making a NOSCRIPT element > unnecessary and distracting. > > -- > Liam Quinn > Web Design Group Enhanced Designs, Web Site Development > http://www.htmlhelp.com/ http://enhanced-designs.com/ > >
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