- From: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
- Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 21:26:09 -0400
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
At 07:01 PM 04/05/98 -0600, Kathy Seven Williams wrote: >At 08:41 PM 5/4/98 -0400, Liam Quinn wrote: >>At 06:24 PM 04/05/98 -0600, Kathy Seven Williams wrote: >>>I hate being forced to go to a text only version of a web site just so I >>>can avoid Java buttons and be able to navigate. >> >>LQ:: You shouldn't have to. With seamless accessibility, all you do is >>disable Java and you're left with a usable alternative (as the content of >>the APPLET element). KSW:: > If I disable JAVA in some places I must be I am then told to go away and >get a browser that is JAVA capable. LQ:: Hopefully the EO group will be able to set these authors straight. >>LQ:: With seamless accessibility, the ALT attribute provides a replacement >>for the image, not a description of it. The TITLE attribute gives a title >>for the image, typically in the form of a short description. KSW:: > Are you capitalizing seamless accessibility? LQ:: No, but I'm thinking of trademarking it <grin>. KSW:: >I'm not sure what this term >is meant to mean. LQ:: I use the term to differentiate it from the kind of accessibility many others advocate, which is to describe what a Web page looks like visually. Seamless accessibility means that a Web page appears to be designed specifically for the user's browsing environment, whatever that environment is. KSW:: >I encounter ALT tags that say everything from IMAGE >(that's informative) to "snowflakes". what I am saying is I'd rather it say >snowflakes or family portrait rather than "picture" some do, some don't. LQ:: I'd rather have the ALT attribute give a replacement for the image. If the image is pure decoration, then there is no need for anything to replace it. KSW:: >I >want to know if there are snowflakes even if i am supposedly just listening >because I have been put into listening mode unwillingly. LQ:: Use of the TITLE attribute (for example, TITLE="Wilson Bentley Snowflake") allows this. Browsers should allow the user to toggle among three modes: 1) load all images; 2) don't load images but show the presence of images with ALT text displayed and TITLE available on request; 3) replace images seamlessly with ALT text. The second option is the user's way of requesting "seams". -- Liam Quinn Web Design Group Enhanced Designs, Web Site Development http://www.htmlhelp.com/ http://enhanced-designs.com/
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