- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <po@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 22:08:42 -0600
- To: "'Charles (Chuck) Oppermann'" <chuckop@MICROSOFT.com>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Chuck you wrote: My point is that ALT is needed to give a *description* of the image. In this example, that could be ALT="spinning red globe". With the advent of TITLE, we can go back to using ALT for it's original intention. I see your point with regard to TITLE. If it is used to express the function then alt could be used for description. However, if browsers are looking for function in the ALT then function still needs to be there. At least for foreseeable future. Question: if there is an alt and a title, which appears on screen instead of the graphic? I thought it was ALT. Does it vary? By the way. A bit of history. I believe the original intention of ALT was for function though it is hard to say since it was used both ways. It was introduced by the same group (in Kansas) that developed lynx and dos-lynx if I am remembering my conversation with them correctly from many years ago. It was introduced to make pages make sense in lynx when the images are not there - as they never are in lynx. Lynx users were generally less interested in what the images looked like than what they represented or were there to signify. Decorative images however did get a descriptive ALT (or they got ALT=""). Anyway. Back to the present. - Does anyone know when there is an alt and a title, which appears on screen instead of the graphic? - Should we be making a recommendation on this? - Should our recommendation take into account the fact that TITLE is possible now? - Will people do both - or are we likely to only see ALT? - If we did use ALT as the primary FUNCTION description -(because function is the most important attribute and ALT is the most likely to be used) then what would be the best use of TITLE? - If title is not used for function, then is this counterintuitive for the use of TITLE in other places for function? Wish I had as many answers as questions. Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Human Factors Dept of Ind. Engr. - U of Wis. Director - Trace R & D Center gv@trace.wisc.edu http://trace.wisc.edu FAX 608/262-8848 For a list of our listserves send "lists" to listproc@trace.wisc.edu
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