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Re: ALT-attribute usage (fwd)

From: Geoff Freed <Geoff_Freed@wgbh.org>
Date: 3 Nov 1997 12:29:41 -0500
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To: "Chuck Letourneau" <cpl@starlingweb.com>, "Mike Paciello" <paciello@yuri.org>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
        Reply to:   RE>>ALT-attribute usage (fwd)

I also agree with Chuck (and Mike)-- I think "item" is clearer than "bullet".  

For the record, I normally use outSPOKEN for the Mac, and it gives longer pauses for commas, not colons.  Thus, ALT="Item, " sounds better on my machine than ALT="Item: ".

geoff freed
CPB/WGBH National Center for Accessible Media

Date: 11/3/97 12:10 PM
To: Geoff Freed
From: Mike Paciello
I agree with Chuck. In fact, this is exactly what I stated in my last two
workshops. Everyone agreed and felt this provided a more accurate
description of the entity.

- Mike

At 10:55 AM 11/3/97 -0500, Chuck Letourneau wrote:
>Last week, Gregg wrote:
>>4) Recommend use of Alt = "bullet, "  (comma and space important to provide 
>>	- gets us back to providing a short audible cue between items to separate
>>them and identify them as being items in a list.
>>	- works on all browsers today
>>	- gives the audible equivalent of a visual bullet
>>	- allows variation if there are different bullet images (in which case the 
>>meaning of the different bullets should be substituted.
>>	- is annoying to hear if you already know for sure that it is a list item
>>>From this listing it would appear that "bullet" would be the proper 
>Since "bullet" essentially means "item" (or new item, or next item), and
>"item" does not denote any hierarchical value (as does a numbered list),
>then the use of ALT="Item: " to describe the function of a bullet seems
>appropriate to me.  "Item" avoids the pain mentioned by Len in a product
>list, telling people to order that strange "bullet, train" which is really
>"Item: train".  Also, doesn't the colon-space give a slightly better pause
>than a comma-space? 
>Chuck Letourneau

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