- From: David Poehlman <poehlman@clark.net>
- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:33:39 -0500 (EST)
- To: Mike Paciello <paciello@yuri.org>
- cc: Chuck Letourneau <cpl@starlingweb.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
my take is that there needs to be a separator and item is just as good as any, but perhaps there should be a note somewhere describing the symbol used to denote that separator. Style choosers want to know. On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Mike Paciello wrote: > Point well taken David. The question is, does the average blind or > text-browser user want to know every symbol when it appears in a redundant > sequence, like a list? > > - Mike > > > At 11:58 AM 11/3/97 -0500, David Poehlman wrote: > >Hi, I still want to know what the symbol is. how do we find out if we > >don't know to look at the source and such? > >if you say item and I do agree that is what it means and it sure sounds > >better and perhaps makes the text more meaningfull, but the question of > >what symbol is being displayed is still there. perhaps this goes into a > >description catagory. > > > > > >On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Mike Paciello wrote: > > > >> I agree with Chuck. In fact, this is exactly what I stated in my last two > >> workshops. Everyone agreed and felt this provided a more accurate > >> description of the entity. > >> > >> - Mike > >> > >> > >> At 10:55 AM 11/3/97 -0500, Chuck Letourneau wrote: > >> >Last week, Gregg wrote: > >> >> > >> >>4) Recommend use of Alt = "bullet, " (comma and space important to > provide > >> >>pause) > >> >> - gets us back to providing a short audible cue between items to > separate > >> >>them and identify them as being items in a list. > >> >> - works on all browsers today > >> >> - gives the audible equivalent of a visual bullet > >> >> - allows variation if there are different bullet images (in which > case the > >> >>meaning of the different bullets should be substituted. > >> >> - is annoying to hear if you already know for sure that it is a list > item > >> >> > >> >>>From this listing it would appear that "bullet" would be the proper > >> >>approach. > >> > > >> >Since "bullet" essentially means "item" (or new item, or next item), and > >> >"item" does not denote any hierarchical value (as does a numbered list), > >> >then the use of ALT="Item: " to describe the function of a bullet seems > >> >appropriate to me. "Item" avoids the pain mentioned by Len in a product > >> >list, telling people to order that strange "bullet, train" which is really > >> >"Item: train". Also, doesn't the colon-space give a slightly better pause > >> >than a comma-space? > >> > > >> >Chuck Letourneau > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >Hands-On-Technolog(eye)s > >touching the internet > >voice: 1-(301) 949-7599 > >poehlman@clark.net > >ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/poehlman > >http://www.clark.net/pub/poehlman > > > > > > > Hands-On-Technolog(eye)s touching the internet voice: 1-(301) 949-7599 poehlman@clark.net ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/poehlman http://www.clark.net/pub/poehlman
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