Re: Focus-appearance testing

Hey Alastair,
I agree about doing complete pages. I'd go up to at least 10 pages though.
Testing one success criterion on 10 pages should not be a big undertaking.
If that takes you more than 30 minutes we have a different problem.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 11:42 PM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
wrote:

> Hi Wilco,
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> I’ve added that:
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> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/2901
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> There are two things to keep in mind:
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>    1. The more questions you put into a survey, the less people will fill
>    it out. Let’s not make it too long, I’m happy to replace the current
>    examples with better ones.
>    2. I think it is worth doing complete pages. One thing I found doing
>    it myself was that after you do a couple on one page, the rest are
>    straightforward (due to the same indicators being re-used). If we are
>    looking for in-practice feasibility, that’s a factor.
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> Kind regards,
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> -Alastair
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> *From: *Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 13:38
> *To: *Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
> *Cc: *WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Focus-appearance testing
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> Hey Alastair,
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> I think the approach is good, I would ask for a broader sample though.
> More pages, and not just from organisations that are known for investing a
> good deal in accessibility. If you'd like, I'd be happy to find a few more
> examples. I would maybe also open an issue in GitHub related to this topic
> so the community has an opportunity to propose pages. They're the ones we
> need to convince about the validity of this SC, so better to involve them
> in the selection.
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> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 1:57 PM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
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> Something that came out of a previous meeting was to test the complexity /
> reliability of focus-appearance in practice.
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> I’m trying to set that up, but before people start filling it in, I’d like
> to check:
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>    1. It makes sense as an exercise;
>    2. The examples are reasonable.
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> If you are interested and have a few minutes, please take a look at the
> instructions:
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lE7jN_BVvGz48StHODhvvRxRp0XMhGtL0P0Pp8oM-ms/edit#
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> If you have minor improvements, just reply to me and I’ll do them.
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> If you have a better (and feasible) approach, or have better examples to
> use, please reply to this thread.
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> Kind regards,
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> -Alastair
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> *Wilco Fiers*
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> Axe-core & Axe-linter product owner - WCAG 3 Project Manager - Facilitator
> ACT Task Force
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*Wilco Fiers*
Axe-core & Axe-linter product owner - WCAG 3 Project Manager - Facilitator
ACT Task Force