- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@vanderheiden.us>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:08:18 -0800
- To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Cc: "w3c-waI-gl@w3. org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <4C70D7F2-50A4-4AE2-A5C4-B7FF40B84D28@vanderheiden.us>
Yep that fixes my concern. gregg > On Dec 20, 2022, at 1:14 AM, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote: > > Hi Gregg, > > Two changes to the same SC, so two PRs in case one doesn’t get approved. 1) Inline, (2) Target offset. > > From the original email, the ‘working doc’ has various examples for the inline exception: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1khsB3Qo8P8VkvTOw2_akHJx_PiXF8HuZ6uKc7uyI1qQ/edit# > > The new text is: > “Inline: The target is in a sentence, or the size of the target is otherwise constrained by the line-height of non-target text;” > > So you need non-link text in the same line/flow as link text. > > In a mixed list, you’d want the list items to have sufficient vertical size/space, but if you have non-link text within the item then one or more links within the item are excepted. > > -Alastair > > > From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@vanderheiden.us> > Date: Tuesday, 20 December 2022 at 01:51 > To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> > Cc: w3c-waI-gl@w3. org <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > Subject: Re: Target size updates > > They were both in the same email so I thought they were both the current draft. > > Question: > If we limit it to sentences or multiple sentences, then how do we deal with bullet lists and menus and anyplace else where there is text but not full sentences. > > > > > > On Dec 19, 2022, at 3:29 PM, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote: > > “constrained by” does not mean a link has to be the maximum size of the line-height, it means that the line-height has to be less than 24px. > I.e. an 8px high link (such as a superscript text-link) is excepted if the line height is under 24px. it doesn’t have to be the height of the line-height. > GV: Is there also a note to this effect? This is good but not clear from SC without a note > > > AC: I think the logic of it is clear, as it is an exception to the initial SC text, I’d hope that a couple of examples in the understanding would do the job. > > > GV: the full text in #2798 says "The target is in a sentence or block of text;" ( This is good) Do we define "block of text"? > > I think that might be a miss-read (that PR is for the target offset), the new text <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Fpull%2F2856%2Ffiles&data=05%7C01%7Cacampbell%40nomensa.com%7Cefc057bb4d4045fdab5c08dae22cac05%7Cebea4ad6fbbf43bd8449c56e26692c35%7C0%7C0%7C638070978740267906%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=OL%2FjjXJP0r4GTtld0D4ziX2tiU6Mz%2BOIt0eTgRfJGys%3D&reserved=0> for the inline exception does not include “block of text”. > > Also, the definition of “block of text” <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2FWCAG22%2F%23dfn-blocks-of-text&data=05%7C01%7Cacampbell%40nomensa.com%7Cefc057bb4d4045fdab5c08dae22cac05%7Cebea4ad6fbbf43bd8449c56e26692c35%7C0%7C0%7C638070978740267906%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Krpswh4Ns76CWD1ha1q8aUbwEFzle6TCyvgVY%2Bc15zw%3D&reserved=0> is “more than one sentence of text”, so the current wording for 2.5.5 is effectively: The target is in a sentence, or more than one sentence of text”. That’s why I think the new wording would be better for both SCs. > > -Alastair
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