Re: SURVEY: WCAG 2.2 editorial updates

Hi Andrew,
I don’t know if it’s your email client, but your comments were really blending in.
> I’m not sure I follow that logic – at some level everything on the screen is an image so maybe we should just use that as an example? I’m happy to have a clearer example, but thought that this SC was started due to questions about sliders?

I don’t think it was started due to sliders. Detlev may remember better, but I thought it was for general drag operations like sorting lists.

Regardless of the example used, I’m not sure what including “parts of user interface components” adds when the SC & definition don’t mention UICs at all. The focus for the SC is things which are dragged, bringing in UICs complicates that.

Kind regards,

-Alastair

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4. Improvement for Dragging Movement definition note #2595

This had agreement except for a question: Is it ok to include the thumbs of sliders in this list of examples?

Sliders are used a lot in the Pointer Gestures understanding document<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fwcag%2Funderstanding%2Fpointer-gestures.html&data=05%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C1801ac69576841ab3c3008da809f09f0%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637963717837506435%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rUYtif4%2FYjLwisWWSF2u0V76xAl%2FfA2qXMpaFjQqye0%3D&reserved=0> and we’ve already had trouble differentiating gestures and dragging, so I think it is a good point.

Given that any “little piece of UI” is probably represented by text or an image, I propose that we just remove the last part so it is:
“Examples of draggable elements include list items, text elements, and images.”

Any objections?


5. Clarification for Consistent Help, 2nd Note #2596

There were several suggested updates, taking into account the context (the rest of the note<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fwcag%2Fguidelines%2F22%2F%23h-note-31&data=05%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C1801ac69576841ab3c3008da809f09f0%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637963717837506435%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=C4kMtzSwADu5Bpwi5r3HZrnHtBY1ecijdMOE4vunI4A%3D&reserved=0>), I though this combination worked best:

“For this Success Criterion, the same relative order can be thought of as how the content is ordered when the page is serialized. The visual position of a help mechanism is likely to be consistent across pages for the same page variation (e.g., CSS break-point). [CHANGE:] The user can cause a change, such as changing the page's zoom or orientation, which may trigger a different page variation. A visual change between page variations does mean a change of relative order.”

Any objections to that?

Kind regards,

-Alastair



From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Date: Monday, 15 August 2022 at 10:41
To: WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: SURVEY: WCAG 2.2 editorial updates
Hi everyone,

There are a few recent editorial updates identified in github issues.

I’ve created a survey for this:
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/wcag22-misc2/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F35422%2Fwcag22-misc2%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C1801ac69576841ab3c3008da809f09f0%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637963717837506435%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XpH2LaN0RTyCi0%2FGYrT0kwEbeIzVFnHtWThKEY0%2FEwE%3D&reserved=0>

If we get sufficient response (of agreement) on the survey this week, I don’t think they need meeting time. If people disagree we can raise them at a meeting.

Kind regards,

-Alastair

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