Re: SURVEY: WCAG 2.2 editorial updates

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On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 8:06 AM Todd Libby <toddlibby@protonmail.com> wrote:

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> Best,
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> Todd Libby
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> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 07:11, Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com> wrote:
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> LGTM, +1 to all of it
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> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 12:45 PM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
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>> Hi everyone,
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>> As we didn’t get meeting time on this survey
>> <https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/wcag22-misc2/results#xq6> I
>> thought we could do some asynchronous updates. NB: Accessible
>> Authentication will be in a separate email.
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>> Question 6 & 7 were very editorial and everyone (13 people) agreed, I’ll
>> go ahead and merge those. (Full stop removed, thank you Mary Jo and Andrew!)
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>> *1. Target size - Problems with the Equivalent exception #2569 *
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>> Two people didn’t think the general “alternatives” applied, but having
>> checked with two former chairs I’m confident it does. It is a tad hidden: In
>> the understanding conformance doc
>> <https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/conformance#cc2> it says:
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>> “Alternatives can also be provided on the same page. For example creating
>> an equivalent to a user interface control.“
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>> Jonathan was aware of that but would still like to have it explicit in
>> this SC.
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>> Chair hat off: If we make that explicit in this SC then it implies other
>> SCs can’t use alternatives. I’d rather be consistent.
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>> Chair hat on: Given that the exception is not required (according to our
>> conformance model) would anyone object to removing it?
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>> *4. Improvement for Dragging Movement definition note #2595 *
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>> This had agreement except for a question: Is it ok to include the thumbs
>> of sliders in this list of examples?
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>> Sliders are used a lot in the Pointer Gestures understanding document
>> <https://w3c.github.io/wcag/understanding/pointer-gestures.html> and
>> we’ve already had trouble differentiating gestures and dragging, so I think
>> it is a good point.
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>> Given that any “little piece of UI” is probably represented by text or an
>> image, I propose that we just remove the last part so it is:
>> “Examples of draggable elements include list items, text elements, and
>> images.”
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>> Any objections?
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>> *5. Clarification for Consistent Help, 2nd Note #2596 *
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>> There were several suggested updates, taking into account the context
>> (the rest of the note
>> <https://w3c.github.io/wcag/guidelines/22/#h-note-31>), I though this
>> combination worked best:
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>> “For this Success Criterion, the same relative order can be thought of as
>> how the content is ordered when the page is serialized. The visual position
>> of a help mechanism is likely to be consistent across pages for the same
>> page variation (e.g., CSS break-point). [CHANGE:] The user can cause a
>> change, such as changing the page's zoom or orientation, which may trigger
>> a different page variation. A visual change between page variations does
>> mean a change of relative order.”
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>> Any objections to that?
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>> Kind regards,
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>> -Alastair
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>> *From: *Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
>> *Date: *Monday, 15 August 2022 at 10:41
>> *To: *WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
>> *Subject: *SURVEY: WCAG 2.2 editorial updates
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>> Hi everyone,
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>> There are a few recent editorial updates identified in github issues.
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>> I’ve created a survey for this:
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>> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/wcag22-misc2/
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>> If we get sufficient response (of agreement) on the survey this week, I
>> don’t think they need meeting time. If people disagree we can raise them at
>> a meeting.
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>> Kind regards,
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>> -Alastair
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> *Wilco Fiers*
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