Re: Content Usable Finding people to include

+1 to Lisa's rewrite:

   - It still puts the most important point first (this is achievable)

   - It also brings up front an acknowledgement of complexity and that this
   guide is written more with the teams with systems in place, but others can
   benefit

Not trying to complicate the conversation, but I would like to suggest one
addition to the first sentence:

   - *Current (from Lisa's draft):* Finding people to include in usability
   testing who have different cognitive and learning disabilities can be
   achievable, even for small groups on a low budget.

   - *Proposed edit: *Finding people to include in usability testing who
   have different cognitive and learning disabilities *is strongly
   encouraged and* can be achievable, even for small groups on a low budget.

Rain

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 8:34 AM Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alternative draft:
>
>
>  Finding people to include in usability testing who have different
> cognitive and learning disabilities can be achievable, even for small
> groups on a low budget. If your organization already involves users, this
> section aims to expand that activity to include people with cognitive and
> learning disabilities. For developers without formal user involvement, even
> a small amount of user input and testing can make a large difference
> to usability and accessibility. Further links about user testing and
> useability can be on our developer resource page
> <https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Developer_resources>.
>
> People sometimes recruit users from an organization or self-help group for
> people with learning difficulties. Social media groups can be a convenient
> resource. Small development groups can achieve a large improvement by
> asking people who they know, such as friends, colleagues, relatives or
> neighbors. Try to build a group of users who:
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:33 PM Rachael Bradley Montgomery <
> rachael@accessiblecommunity.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We decided to move the conversation around expanding a bit on the first
>> paragraph of Finding people to include
>> <https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/consistency_checks/content-usable/index.html#finding-people-to-include>to
>> the list.  Detlev had suggested providing a bit more framing of the first
>> sentence. The current paragraph states:
>>
>> Finding people to include in usability testing who have different
>> cognitive and learning disabilities can be achievable, even for small
>> groups on a low budget. People sometimes recruit users from an organization
>> or self-help group for people with learning difficulties. Social media
>> groups can be an easy and convenient resource. Small development groups can
>> achieve a large improvement by asking people who they know, such as
>> friends, colleagues, relatives or neighbors. Try to build a group of users
>> who:
>>
>>
>> Discussion today suggested statements such as:
>>
>>    -  "If your organization already tests websites with users, this
>>    section aims to expand that activity to include people with cognitive and
>>    learning disabilities."
>>    - "For each objective, many organizations can add user testing
>>    including individuals with a range of cognitive and learning disabilities
>>    into their user testing plan."
>>    - Clarifying formal and informal testing
>>
>>
>> I suggest the following as a starting point though we can begin with the
>> current text if preferred:
>>
>> If your organization already tests with users, this section aims to
>> expand that activity to include people with cognitive and learning
>> disabilities. If your organization does not yet test with users, you can
>> find information to get started including users with disabilities at Involving
>> Users in Evaluating Web Accessibility
>> <https://www.w3.org/WAI/test-evaluate/involving-users/> and on our developer
>> resource page
>> <https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Developer_resources>.
>> Finding people to include in usability testing who have different cognitive
>> and learning disabilities can be achievable, even for small groups on a low
>> budget. People sometimes recruit users from an organization or self-help
>> group for people with learning difficulties. Social media groups can be an
>> easy and convenient resource. Small development groups can conduct informal
>> testing leading to a large improvement by asking people who they know, such
>> as friends, colleagues, relatives or neighbors.
>>
>> Try to build a group of users who:
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rachael
>> --
>> Rachael Montgomery, PhD
>> Director, Accessible Community
>> rachael@accessiblecommunity.org
>>
>> "I will paint this day with laughter;
>> I will frame this night in song."
>>  - Og Mandino
>>
>>