- From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 13:25:14 +0000
- To: Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
- CC: WCAG group <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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Thanks for that Detlev,
I'm not sure if your proposal would actually be simpler overall (compared to where the others might get to), but I really like some aspects like the "Adjectival or 5 point scoring" slide. That explains something where there are many options in a very straightforward way.
It occurs to me that some prioritisation could be built into that with much less controversy.
For example, having flashes on the view scores 0/5. If we decided that "language of the page" (environment, whatever) was less of an issue, it could score 2/5. (Or 3 if the user group is known and the default works?)
That's a hypothetical, just pointing out that when you have finer gained scoring than pass/fail there is inherent prioritisation /within/ the guidelines, no need for a separate prioritisation.
Cheers,
Alastair
Apologies for typos, sent from a mobile.
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Subject: Re: Alternative Silver / WCAG 3.0 conformance model proposal
Hi Detlev
I really like your direction, and it shows a lot of thought and work.
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 6:41 AM Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de<mailto:detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>> wrote:
For those who were not present in yesterday's conformance deep dive, I
just want to put the link to an alternative proposal that I have now
outlined in response to the 2 existing proposals by Rachael and John.
I fear that in both proposals discussed so far, the scoring approach
will be very complex and hard to understand. I am also uncertain whether
the complete revamp of the structure into guidelines/methods is justified.
My proposal tries to envisage WCAG 3.0 more as an extension of WCAG 2.X,
turning pass/fail into a graded scoring scheme with 5 points (what has
been called 'adectival rating'). In that way, it supports the inclusion
of new success criteria that are not easily amenable to a pass/fail
rating. The proposal also allows the definition of paths (based on user
tasks) as an aggregate for scoping conformance claims.
Here is the link:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dV1moNnq-56sS1o84UCKkc_g-gE10X6Y/
This is just a sketch, and hopefully a basis for discussing alternatives
that seem to me more workable than what we have so far.
Detlev
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