- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 09:05:56 -0600
- To: "Hall, Charles (DET-MRM)" <Charles.Hall@mrm-mccann.com>
- Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, WCAG list <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hi Charles, Alastair, and everyone, > I am suggesting the text description accompany all instances I agree. Back in 2016 I started a "Metadata On Hover" SC in the The Low Vision Task Force. The text was "Informational content that is only shown by hovering your mouse over an element is not used as the only means of conveying information and does not obscure other content." https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/index.php?title=Metadata_On_Hover&oldid=2426 That morphed into 1.4.13, which didn't solve the issue of the title attribute - "Cursor Overlapping Tooltip Text on Hover" https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/index.php?title=Metadata_On_Hover&oldid=2426#University_of_Minnesota_Duluth Kind Regards, Laura On 1/13/20, Hall, Charles (DET-MRM) <Charles.Hall@mrm-mccann.com> wrote: > RE: “I didn’t quite understand what you were suggesting should change, did > you mean that it should always be available with the icon, rather than > before it?” > > I am suggesting the text description accompany all instances – if those > instances are flow content. > > I am fine with the example where the usage is clustered within a data > visualization component. However, in a chart or map, it would have to be a > legend, since there is likely no “first instance” as visually interpreted. > > > Charles Hall // Senior UX Architect > Invited Expert, W3C Accessibility Guidelines Working Group > > (he//him) > charles.hall@mrm-mccann.com<mailto:charles.hall@mrm-mccann.com> > W +1.248.203.8723 > M +1.248.225.8179 > 360 W Maple, Birmingham MI 48009 > mrm-mccann.com<https://www.mrm-mccann.com/> > > [MRM//McCann] > Cannes Network of the Year > Effie’s Most Creatively Effective Global Network 2018, 2019 > Adweek 2019 Global Agency of the Year > IPG Agency Inclusion Vanguard – Agency of the Year 2019 > > > From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> > Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 at 5:43 AM > To: "Hall, Charles (DET-MRM)" <Charles.Hall@mrm-mccann.com> > Cc: WCAG list <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WCAG 2.2 status - Icon Description > > Hi Charles, > > Discussion here is fine ☺ > >> I would prefer a more strict SC. >> “on or before the first occurrence of an icon on the page” can still be a >> challenge or barrier for people (including those interpreting the SC >> without specific examples). > > I didn’t quite understand what you were suggesting should change, did you > mean that it should always be available with the icon, rather than before > it? > > A scenario we were considering was that icons can be used as categorisation > and used repeatedly in table rows/columns, for example: > https://i1.wp.com/www.joelonsoftware.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/grid.gif?ssl=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__i1.wp.com_www.joelonsoftware.com_wp-2Dcontent_uploads_2016_12_grid.gif-3Fssl-3D1&d=DwMGaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6i2dv-WpJzmR-w48cl75l3c&m=qB_tmQLo5qB5LW0aZlpd9V-sGKU3CsiGyXGsyTVk07c&s=8Ntvj1MCJwSqz0iWnNFtnNEDGG8P_A8e25fGozLyM9o&e=> > [alt = a table of cases in a bug tracker, the first column shows an icon for > ‘bug’ (spider), ‘idea’ (light bulb), and email (envelope).] > > In scenarios like data-visualisations or maps, it seemed reasonable to allow > for a legend approach rather than require something on every instance. > It would also help keep it cross-technology, as things like ePub/PDF > wouldn’t (reasonably) be able to have a page-level toggle. > > >> This also assumes the “page” is the user’s context. > > Yep, this is for WCAG 2.x, so the page is the unit of conformance. > > Cheers, > > -Alastair > > This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. > Unless you are the intended recipient (or authorized to receive this message > for the intended recipient), you may not use, copy, disseminate or disclose > to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you > have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply > e-mail, and delete the message. Thank you very much. > -- Laura L. Carlson
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