RE: 4.1.1 depreciation discussion

I don’t think 1.3.1 and 4.1.2 give content authors and end users the same level of Robustness that 4.1.1 provides in theory.  I don’t want to drop 4.1.1 unless there is a better alternative to ensure that content authors have solid ground to base their coding decisions so that the content has the best chance possible of working across the software stack, across time.

Brooks

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 11:50 AM
To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>; WCAG Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org>
Subject: 4.1.1 depreciation discussion

Hi All

Congratulations to all who made the long trip to Japan and those who stayed up to attend online... I  hope that everyone from North America gets a quick restoration of their circadian rhythms.

I had proposed to remove 4.1.1 and point to 1.3.1 and 4.1.2 to cover the same issues.  Wilco researched it and it got a good airing on Github.
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It appears form both the Github thread and the survey, that support to remove it is around 48% on 33 votes, and 52% for keeping it.

I think based on the Github discussion, this survey,and emails, that I should withdraw the proposal, because historically, new actions on the standard should have broad support, not moderate support.


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