RE: WCAG 2.2 SC Do Not Rely On User Memory Draft

Interestingly, if I'm reading the proposal correctly, a password confirmation field in a Web-based form would fail. However, its purpose is, in part, to determine whether the user remembers the password and entered it correctly in the original password field.

I didn't notice anything in the proposal that would allow for a password confirmation even if the browser (or an extension) fills it in automatically - along the lines of "a mechanism is available...".

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Subject: Re: WCAG 2.2 SC Do Not Rely On User Memory Draft

I will insert those comments in the draft, and open it up to discussion in the COGA TF next week.
On 8/23/19, 11:56 AM, "Jonathan Avila" <jon.avila@levelaccess.com> wrote:

    I agree, let's just add it to the understanding to clear up any confusion.

    Jonathan

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    On 23/08/2019 17:32, David Fazio wrote:
    > I added in a reference to 3.3.2 Labels of Instructions. I don't think we should omit it just because it constitutes a failure of another S.C. The reason being is that this gives "cause" to users with cognitive disabilities. "Cause" is a legal standard that must be met, demonstrating that an individual has been harmed, in order to bring forth a lawsuit. A user who is not blind, and does not rely on braille cannot sue a compant for not providing braille materials, because that does not harm them. Although it would harm a person that is blind.

    If this aspect (of the reliance on placeholder) is already a failure of 3.3.2, why not add that particular aspect/example - with specific reference to users with cognitive disabilities - directly in 3.3.2's understanding/techniques? You don't have to have separate SCs covering the same aspects for different audiences/users.

    P
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