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Re: What is a failure of 1.3.5 Identify Input Purpose?

From: Joshue O Connor - InterAccess <josh@interaccess.ie>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:29:41 +0000
Message-ID: <5C507F75.2070608@interaccess.ie>
To: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
CC: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hi John,

John Foliot wrote:
> Hi Josh,
>
>     > its that 'on a per-input basis' that's just not clear from the SC
>
>
> *Success Criterion 1.3.5 Identify Input Purpose: *The purpose of each 
> input field collecting information about the user...
>
> Josh, I'm struggling to figure out how to author this so that the 
> requirement is clearer, given the highlighted bits of the quoted SC 
> (i.e., "each input field... about the user"). We cannot "re-open" the 
> normative text at this time, but is there something in the 
> Understanding document that we should add, modify or otherwise clarify?
I think its the not the text of the SC that is the issue, but the 
understanding of the 'thing to do to satisfy' the SC.
Heck, it only took me a ~ 35+ email thread, input from two chairs and 
some of the worlds best a11y experts for me to get it.

I'm currently working on 'how to guidance' for a potential 'can't cook 
won't cook' audience so I needed some bullet proof guidance.
Something is lost in translation for sure.

Thanks

Josh

>
> JF
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 8:29 AM Joshue O Connor - InterAccess 
> <josh@interaccess.ie <mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>> wrote:
>
>     Alastair Campbell wrote:
>>
>>     Joshue O Connor wrote:
>>     > A well marked up and otherwise accessible form, is a fail of
>>     this SC *only* when it contains information about the user and
>>     none of the related metadata tokens (as per what are defined in/a
>>     la autocomplete attribute). Correct?
>>
>>     That’s my understanding, I’d just phrase it on a per-input basis,
>>     you’d be looking at each field rather than the form as a whole.
>>
>     Thanks Alistair - and I think you are right, its that 'on a
>     per-input basis' that's just not clear from the SC, and makes the
>     practical 'how to part' of this difficult to understand. Just look
>     at this thread - never mind how the real world will struggle with
>     understanding it.
>
>     Josh
>>
>>     I.e. an /input/ would fail **only** when it is asking for
>>     information about the user that matches one of the related
>>     metadata tokens, and it does not have any (accessibility
>>     supported) metadata included.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     -Alastair
>>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Joshue O Connor
>     Director | InterAccess.ie
>
>
>
> -- 
> *​John Foliot* | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC 
> Representative
> Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good
> deque.com <http://deque.com/>
>


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Joshue O Connor
Director | InterAccess.ie
Received on Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:31:04 UTC

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