- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:10:54 -0500
- To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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+1 to leaving 1.3.4 where it is. Using @autocomplete is a Technique, and is not the required outcome of this SC (which is that form inputs are "Programatically Determinable"). JF On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Denis Boudreau <denis.boudreau@deque.com> wrote: > Good point, Glenda. > > Also, come to think of it, I was focusing on the mention of the input > fields, but in reality, the important part in this SC is about the meaning > we can extract programmatically from the control. > > Therefore, it's not so much about input assistance, but it's really about > what the user can perceive... so 1.3 and adaptable makes better sense now. > > So I want to take my -1 back, and instead, I'm +1'ing to keep 1.3.4 where > it currently is. > > > /Denis > > > -- > Denis Boudreau > Principal Accessibility Consultant & training lead > Deque Systems, Inc. > » denis.boudreau@deque.com > » 514-730-9168 <(514)%20730-9168> > > Keep in touch! @dboudreau <http://www.twitter.com/dboudreau> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com> > wrote: > >> +1 keep it where it is. >> >> 1.3.4 Identify Common Purpose originally started out to identify the >> common purpose of more than just input fields. But at this point...y'all >> are only willing to try this for "input fields". The fact that we are >> leveraging autofill as the metadata (that has a side effect of entering >> data) is a bonus situation. When the next piece comes in (Identify Common >> Controls) this won't just be about input assistance at all..it is about >> helping people find common things (recognize common things on web pages). >> >> Remember where we are headed. Review the list of items that I predict >> will come in next (hopefully in WCAG 2.1). https://www.w3.org/TR/2 >> 017/WD-WCAG21-20171207/#commonpurposes including "Table of Contents", >> "Next", "Previous", "Sign out", "Contact Us". >> >> How much time do we all spend looking for things like how to log off and >> where is that dang contact us link...and what did they name it on this site. >> >> I repeat...the "autofill" side effect is a bonus. The real intent of >> this SC is to provide reliable meta-data for Coga AT to be able to help a >> person FIND/RECOGNIZE these things. >> >> peace out, >> goodwitch >> >> >> >> glenda sims | team a11y lead | deque.com | 512.963.3773 >> <(512)%20963-3773> >> *web for everyone. web on everything.* - w3 goals >> >> [image: IAAP International Association of Accessibility Professionals: >> Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies (CPACC)] >> <http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/certification> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Call For Consensus — ends Monday March 19th at 11:00am Boston time. >>> >>> >>> >>> The Working Group has discussed a change which would move SC 1.3.4 >>> Identify Common Controls to Guideline 3.3. This CFC is to evaluate the >>> apparent consensus to not move the SC. On the WG call there was a lower >>> level of support to move the SC than to not move it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Call minutes: https://www.w3.org/2018/03/13-ag-minutes.html#item02 >>> >>> >>> >>> If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have >>> not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not >>> being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before >>> the CfC deadline. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> AWK >>> >>> >>> >>> Andrew Kirkpatrick >>> >>> Group Product Manager, Accessibility >>> >>> Adobe >>> >>> >>> >>> akirkpat@adobe.com >>> >>> http://twitter.com/awkawk >>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fawkawk&data=02%7C01%7C%7C54093524ef264326424008d51cd66c05%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636446629619786436&sdata=c5UP0xiniJIppvd6Esu1XA%2FbX1ykpABkhgCCmBp%2Fht8%3D&reserved=0> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- John Foliot Principal Accessibility Strategist Deque Systems Inc. john.foliot@deque.com Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
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