Re: CFC - Decision to keep 1.3.4 where it is

+1 to leaving 1.3.4 where it is.

Using @autocomplete is a Technique, and is not the required outcome of this
SC (which is that form inputs are "Programatically Determinable").

JF

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Denis Boudreau <denis.boudreau@deque.com>
wrote:

> Good point, Glenda.
>
> Also, come to think of it, I was focusing on the mention of the input
> fields, but in reality, the important part in this SC is about the meaning
> we can extract programmatically from the control.
>
> Therefore, it's not so much about input assistance, but it's really about
> what the user can perceive... so 1.3 and adaptable makes better sense now.
>
> So I want to take my -1 back, and instead, I'm +1'ing to keep 1.3.4 where
> it currently is.
>
>
> /Denis
>
>
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> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 keep it where it is.
>>
>> 1.3.4 Identify Common Purpose originally started out to identify the
>> common purpose of more than just input fields.  But at this point...y'all
>> are only willing to try this for "input fields".  The fact that we are
>> leveraging autofill as the metadata (that has a side effect of entering
>> data) is a bonus situation.  When the next piece comes in (Identify Common
>> Controls) this won't just be about input assistance at all..it is about
>> helping people find common things (recognize common things on web pages).
>>
>> Remember where we are headed.  Review the list of items that I predict
>> will come in next (hopefully in WCAG 2.1).  https://www.w3.org/TR/2
>> 017/WD-WCAG21-20171207/#commonpurposes  including "Table of Contents",
>> "Next",  "Previous", "Sign out", "Contact Us".
>>
>> How much time do we all spend looking for things like how to log off and
>> where is that dang contact us link...and what did they name it on this site.
>>
>> I repeat...the "autofill" side effect is a bonus.  The real intent of
>> this SC is to provide reliable meta-data for Coga AT to be able to help a
>> person FIND/RECOGNIZE these things.
>>
>> peace out,
>> goodwitch
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Call For Consensus — ends Monday March 19th at 11:00am Boston time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Working Group has discussed a change which would move SC 1.3.4
>>> Identify Common Controls to Guideline 3.3. This CFC is to evaluate the
>>> apparent consensus to not move the SC. On the WG call there was a lower
>>> level of support to move the SC than to not move it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Call minutes: https://www.w3.org/2018/03/13-ag-minutes.html#item02
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have
>>> not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not
>>> being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before
>>> the CfC deadline.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> AWK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>>>
>>> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>>>
>>> Adobe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> akirkpat@adobe.com
>>>
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