- From: Denis Boudreau <denis.boudreau@deque.com>
- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:01:49 -0400
- To: Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com>
- Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAC=s1AgBcSGHBSJtYrrn=7hmHr9v0BHbqWTbahm-YBTX9_OtqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Good point, Glenda. Also, come to think of it, I was focusing on the mention of the input fields, but in reality, the important part in this SC is about the meaning we can extract programmatically from the control. Therefore, it's not so much about input assistance, but it's really about what the user can perceive... so 1.3 and adaptable makes better sense now. So I want to take my -1 back, and instead, I'm +1'ing to keep 1.3.4 where it currently is. /Denis -- Denis Boudreau Principal Accessibility Consultant & training lead Deque Systems, Inc. » denis.boudreau@deque.com » 514-730-9168 Keep in touch! @dboudreau <http://www.twitter.com/dboudreau> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com> wrote: > +1 keep it where it is. > > 1.3.4 Identify Common Purpose originally started out to identify the > common purpose of more than just input fields. But at this point...y'all > are only willing to try this for "input fields". The fact that we are > leveraging autofill as the metadata (that has a side effect of entering > data) is a bonus situation. When the next piece comes in (Identify Common > Controls) this won't just be about input assistance at all..it is about > helping people find common things (recognize common things on web pages). > > Remember where we are headed. Review the list of items that I predict > will come in next (hopefully in WCAG 2.1). https://www.w3.org/TR/ > 2017/WD-WCAG21-20171207/#commonpurposes including "Table of Contents", > "Next", "Previous", "Sign out", "Contact Us". > > How much time do we all spend looking for things like how to log off and > where is that dang contact us link...and what did they name it on this site. > > I repeat...the "autofill" side effect is a bonus. The real intent of this > SC is to provide reliable meta-data for Coga AT to be able to help a person > FIND/RECOGNIZE these things. > > peace out, > goodwitch > > > > glenda sims | team a11y lead | deque.com | 512.963.3773 > <(512)%20963-3773> > *web for everyone. web on everything.* - w3 goals > > [image: IAAP International Association of Accessibility Professionals: > Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies (CPACC)] > <http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/certification> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> > wrote: > >> Call For Consensus — ends Monday March 19th at 11:00am Boston time. >> >> >> >> The Working Group has discussed a change which would move SC 1.3.4 >> Identify Common Controls to Guideline 3.3. This CFC is to evaluate the >> apparent consensus to not move the SC. On the WG call there was a lower >> level of support to move the SC than to not move it. >> >> >> >> Call minutes: https://www.w3.org/2018/03/13-ag-minutes.html#item02 >> >> >> >> If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not >> been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not >> being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before >> the CfC deadline. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> AWK >> >> >> >> Andrew Kirkpatrick >> >> Group Product Manager, Accessibility >> >> Adobe >> >> >> >> akirkpat@adobe.com >> >> http://twitter.com/awkawk >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fawkawk&data=02%7C01%7C%7C54093524ef264326424008d51cd66c05%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636446629619786436&sdata=c5UP0xiniJIppvd6Esu1XA%2FbX1ykpABkhgCCmBp%2Fht8%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> >> >> > >
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