- From: Chakravarthula, Srinivasu <srchakravarthula@informatica.com>
- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 05:28:30 +0000
- To: Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>, Denis Boudreau <denis.boudreau@deque.com>
- CC: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, "Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com" <Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com>, "Eric Eggert" <ee@w3.org>, "david100@sympatico.ca" <david100@sympatico.ca>, "faulkner.steve@gmail.com" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "glenda.sims@deque.com" <glenda.sims@deque.com>, "jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com" <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>, "lauriat@google.com" <lauriat@google.com>, "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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Absolutely a great idea! Thanks, Vasu Srinivasu Chakravarthula Lead Accessibility Consultant Twitter: @CSrinivasu<http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu> | +91 99008 10881 [id:image001.png@01D34F10.93284FC0] From: Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:29 AM To: Denis Boudreau <denis.boudreau@deque.com> Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, "Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com" <Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com>, Eric Eggert <ee@w3.org>, "david100@sympatico.ca" <david100@sympatico.ca>, "faulkner.steve@gmail.com" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "glenda.sims@deque.com" <glenda.sims@deque.com>, "jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com" <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>, "lauriat@google.com" <lauriat@google.com>, "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Subject: Re: Could we add "Persona Quotes" as a standard part of the Understanding Documents for WCAG 2.1? Resent-From: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Resent-Date: Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:29 AM +1 Glenda. This is a wonderful idea! On Jan 31, 2018 1:26 PM, "Denis Boudreau" <denis.boudreau@deque.com<mailto:denis.boudreau@deque.com>> wrote: I love the idea as well. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 13:23 Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>> wrote: Sounds like a great idea Glenda! Thanks, AWK Andrew Kirkpatrick Group Product Manager, Accessibility Adobe akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com> http://twitter.com/awkawk On 1/31/18, 12:48, "Eric Eggert" <ee@w3.org<mailto:ee@w3.org>> wrote: On 31 Jan 2018, at 18:03, Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com<mailto:Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com> wrote: > +1 > > > > Here's a question: Can we give these personas names, using common > names from around the world? Having a name to associate with a use > case sure makes it easier for some people to remember the factors at > play when designing and developing for accessibility. <eowg fyi> EOWG has recently updated the content of their user stories, it might be useful to keep the names and requirements consistent with them. And the understanding could inform those user stories, too! https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2Fintro%2Fpeople-use-web%2Fstories&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43%7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata=wsfW6wrcDqGdLCpfOm5JKNl%2BDvVrLeOJ%2FHocxp7KCyM%3D&reserved=0 </eowg fyi> > Named personas could serve as common elements of the Understanding > documents for subsequent versions of WCAG, as well. > > > Brooks Newton > Sr. Accessibility Specialist, Legal UX > > Thomson Reuters > the answer company > > brooks.newton@tr.com<mailto:brooks.newton@tr.com><mailto:brooks.newton@tr.com<mailto:brooks.newton@tr.com>> > > > From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>] > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:48 AM > To: Steve Faulkner > Cc: Glenda Sims; WCAG; Andrew Kirkpatrick; Shawn Lauriat; Jeanne > Spellman > Subject: Re: Could we add "Persona Quotes" as a standard part of the > Understanding Documents for WCAG 2.1? 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What do y'all think of the possibility of adding a > new piece to WCAG 2.1 Understanding docs...called...."Persona Quotes". > > Example for SC Orientation (AA) > > * Persona(s): > > * Disability Type: Motor > > * Quote: "Don't force me to rotate my mobile device. My > mobile device is attached to my wheelchair in portrait mode. I cannot > rotate my mobile device by myself." > Example for SC Text Reflow (AA) > > * Persona(s) > > * Disability Type: Low Vision > > * Parameter: Reading horizontal text: (example: English) > > * Quote: "Horizontal scrolling is evil! I'm trying to > read a paragraph of English text and I have to scroll right on every > line and then scroll left for the next line. The cognitive overhead > for reading this way prevents me from being able to focus fully on the > content." > * Research: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnosetothepage.org%2FFitz%2F2dScroll.html&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43%7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata=NAtyf6490IcxCfNYXCj%2BtBzB%2FY6uPLOoPb0Vr8pQSUA%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__nosetothepage.org_Fitz_2dScroll.html%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D4ZIZThykDLcoWk-GVjSLmy8-1Cr1I4FWIvbLFebwKgY%26r%3DW3VUihr49D2x8upR4FtjMIsy0FSGEnqb4ghTiQJMtRw%26m%3D17Jz_OLVonzMIxTePCQUAmhbU-jDMPAiW86FAi77BRU%26s%3DOFm8jxVBRY4tiOz4Hy8O7URerprMXLpbZEyPlKZICog%26e&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43%7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata=2NCmqbkXVIXEXsGXqF6MQNUvs%2FdhQIsf2EAJU5UX%2B3U%3D&reserved=0=> > > * Parameter: 'Reading vertical text (example: Japanese) > > * Quote: "Vertical scrolling is evil! I'm trying to > read a paragraph of text and I have to scroll down on every line and > then scroll up to get to the next line. The cognitive overhead for > reading this way prevents me from being able to focus on the content." > I think persona quotes could help in a number of ways: > > * Make it easier for you to understand the new SC. > * Help you see the reason the new SC exists. > * Create desire to prevent barriers that hurt real people. > What do y'all think? > G > > glenda sims | team a11y lead | > deque.com<http://deque.com><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__deque.com%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D4ZIZThykDLcoWk-GVjSLmy8-1Cr1I4FWIvbLFebwKgY%26r%3DW3VUihr49D2x8upR4FtjMIsy0FSGEnqb4ghTiQJMtRw%26m%3D17Jz_OLVonzMIxTePCQUAmhbU-jDMPAiW86FAi77BRU%26s%3DbJAlA4r3hwE4rn53YsVmgHgbReqhXFOAKoEGd8HORdw%26e&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43%7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata=MA9jZ58NvKAdHwmgx2DwEK9wqnxkdzpsPVDtp1wF%2BUg%3D&reserved=0=> > | 512.963.3773<tel:(512)%20963-3773><tel:(512)%20963-3773> > *web for everyone. web on everything.* - w3 goals > > [IAAP International Association of Accessibility Professionals: > Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies > (CPACC)]<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__www.accessibilityassociation.org_certification%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D4ZIZThykDLcoWk-GVjSLmy8-1Cr1I4FWIvbLFebwKgY%26r%3DW3VUihr49D2x8upR4FtjMIsy0FSGEnqb4ghTiQJMtRw%26m%3D17Jz_OLVonzMIxTePCQUAmhbU-jDMPAiW86FAi77BRU%26s%3DPE2iu4dRBh428QeVu7FDwkQYI9Z5AuGoofBdEu-sjLM%26e&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43%7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata=8tKYmFP5a4IfWcWv66hKhq%2BdNCjUmliI0HTVBhY5M4M%3D&reserved=0=> -- Eric Eggert Web Accessibility Specialist Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) at World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) -- /Denis -- Denis Boudreau Principal SME & trainer Web accessibility, inclusive design and UX Deque Systems inc. 514-730-9168<tel:(514)%20730-9168> Keep in touch: @dboudreau
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