- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 12:44:00 -0600
- To: Denis Boudreau <denis.boudreau@deque.com>
- Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, "Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com" <Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com>, Eric Eggert <ee@w3.org>, "david100@sympatico.ca" <david100@sympatico.ca>, "faulkner.steve@gmail.com" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "glenda.sims@deque.com" <glenda.sims@deque.com>, "jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com" <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>, "lauriat@google.com" <lauriat@google.com>, "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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+1, and an additional +1 to Eric's response (coordination with personas at EO WG) JF On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Denis Boudreau <denis.boudreau@deque.com> wrote: > I love the idea as well. > > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 13:23 Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> > wrote: > >> Sounds like a great idea Glenda! >> >> Thanks, >> AWK >> >> Andrew Kirkpatrick >> Group Product Manager, Accessibility >> Adobe >> >> akirkpat@adobe.com >> http://twitter.com/awkawk >> >> On 1/31/18, 12:48, "Eric Eggert" <ee@w3.org> wrote: >> >> On 31 Jan 2018, at 18:03, Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com wrote: >> >> > +1 >> > >> > >> > >> > Here's a question: Can we give these personas names, using common >> > names from around the world? Having a name to associate with a use >> > case sure makes it easier for some people to remember the factors at >> > play when designing and developing for accessibility. >> >> <eowg fyi> >> >> EOWG has recently updated the content of their user stories, it might >> be >> useful to keep the names and requirements consistent with them. And >> the >> understanding could inform those user stories, too! >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2Fintro%2Fpeople-use- >> web%2Fstories&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com% >> 7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43%7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c3 >> 0bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata=wsfW6wrcDqGdLCpfOm5JKNl% >> 2BDvVrLeOJ%2FHocxp7KCyM%3D&reserved=0 >> >> </eowg fyi> >> >> > Named personas could serve as common elements of the Understanding >> > documents for subsequent versions of WCAG, as well. >> > >> > >> > Brooks Newton >> > Sr. Accessibility Specialist, Legal UX >> > >> > Thomson Reuters >> > the answer company >> > >> > brooks.newton@tr.com<mailto:brooks.newton@tr.com> >> > >> > >> > From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:48 AM >> > To: Steve Faulkner >> > Cc: Glenda Sims; WCAG; Andrew Kirkpatrick; Shawn Lauriat; Jeanne >> > Spellman >> > Subject: Re: Could we add "Persona Quotes" as a standard part of the >> > Understanding Documents for WCAG 2.1? 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What do y'all think of the possibility of adding >> a >> > new piece to WCAG 2.1 Understanding docs...called...."Persona >> Quotes". >> > >> > Example for SC Orientation (AA) >> > >> > * Persona(s): >> > >> > * Disability Type: Motor >> > >> > * Quote: "Don't force me to rotate my mobile device. My >> > mobile device is attached to my wheelchair in portrait mode. I >> cannot >> > rotate my mobile device by myself." >> > Example for SC Text Reflow (AA) >> > >> > * Persona(s) >> > >> > * Disability Type: Low Vision >> > >> > * Parameter: Reading horizontal text: (example: English) >> > >> > * Quote: "Horizontal scrolling is evil! I'm trying to >> > read a paragraph of English text and I have to scroll right on every >> > line and then scroll left for the next line. The cognitive overhead >> > for reading this way prevents me from being able to focus fully on >> the >> > content." >> > * Research: >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fnosetothepage.org%2FFitz%2F2dScroll.html& >> data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43% >> 7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata= >> NAtyf6490IcxCfNYXCj%2BtBzB%2FY6uPLOoPb0Vr8pQSUA%3D&reserved=0< >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F% >> 2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__ >> nosetothepage.org_Fitz_2dScroll.html%26d%3DDwMFaQ% >> 26c%3D4ZIZThykDLcoWk-GVjSLmy8-1Cr1I4FWIvbLFebwKgY%26r% >> 3DW3VUihr49D2x8upR4FtjMIsy0FSGEnqb4ghTiQJMtRw%26m%3D17Jz_ >> OLVonzMIxTePCQUAmhbU-jDMPAiW86FAi77BRU%26s%3DOFm8jxVBRY4tiOz4Hy8O7URerprM >> XLpbZEyPlKZICog%26e&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com% >> 7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43%7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c3 >> 0bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata=2NCmqbkXVIXEXsGXqF6MQNUvs% >> 2FdhQIsf2EAJU5UX%2B3U%3D&reserved=0=> >> > >> > * Parameter: 'Reading vertical text (example: Japanese) >> > >> > * Quote: "Vertical scrolling is evil! I'm trying to >> > read a paragraph of text and I have to scroll down on every line and >> > then scroll up to get to the next line. The cognitive overhead for >> > reading this way prevents me from being able to focus on the >> content." >> > I think persona quotes could help in a number of ways: >> > >> > * Make it easier for you to understand the new SC. >> > * Help you see the reason the new SC exists. >> > * Create desire to prevent barriers that hurt real people. >> > What do y'all think? >> > G >> > >> > glenda sims | team a11y lead | >> > deque.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook. >> com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com% >> 2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__deque.com%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c% >> 3D4ZIZThykDLcoWk-GVjSLmy8-1Cr1I4FWIvbLFebwKgY%26r% >> 3DW3VUihr49D2x8upR4FtjMIsy0FSGEnqb4ghTiQJMtRw%26m%3D17Jz_ >> OLVonzMIxTePCQUAmhbU-jDMPAiW86FAi77BRU%26s%3DbJAlA4r3hwE4rn53YsVmgHgbReqh >> XFOAKoEGd8HORdw%26e&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com% >> 7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43%7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c3 >> 0bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata=MA9jZ58NvKAdHwmgx2DwEK9wqnxkdz >> psPVDtp1wF%2BUg%3D&reserved=0=> >> > | 512.963.3773 <(512)%20963-3773><tel:(512)%20963-3773> >> > *web for everyone. web on everything.* - w3 goals >> > >> > [IAAP International Association of Accessibility Professionals: >> > Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies >> > (CPACC)]<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook. >> com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com% >> 2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__www.accessibilityassociation.org_ >> certification%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D4ZIZThykDLcoWk-GVjSLmy8- >> 1Cr1I4FWIvbLFebwKgY%26r%3DW3VUihr49D2x8upR4FtjMIsy0FSG >> Enqb4ghTiQJMtRw%26m%3D17Jz_OLVonzMIxTePCQUAmhbU-jDMPAiW86FAi77BRU%26s% >> 3DPE2iu4dRBh428QeVu7FDwkQYI9Z5AuGoofBdEu-sjLM%26e&data=02% >> 7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8be86aa9cd84a2a200d08d568d2cb43% >> 7C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4%7C0%7C0%7C636530176937799771&sdata= >> 8tKYmFP5a4IfWcWv66hKhq%2BdNCjUmliI0HTVBhY5M4M%3D&reserved=0=> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Eric Eggert >> Web Accessibility Specialist >> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) at World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) >> >> >> >> -- > /Denis > > -- > Denis Boudreau > Principal SME & trainer > Web accessibility, inclusive design and UX > Deque Systems inc. > 514-730-9168 <(514)%20730-9168> > > Keep in touch: @dboudreau > -- John Foliot Principal Accessibility Strategist Deque Systems Inc. john.foliot@deque.com Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
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