RE: CFC - Updated Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688 on Character Key Shortcuts

-1 for the same reasons that I gave in response to the previous CfC on this proposal, to which are now added internationalization concerns regarding the new definition.

From: Alex Li (CELA) [mailto:alli@microsoft.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Marc Johlic <marc.johlic@gmail.com>; Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: RE: CFC - Updated Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688 on Character Key Shortcuts

How does this SC text apply internationally? I'm at least suspicious.
+1 under the condition that any amendment to address international application is considered "editorial".

From: Marc Johlic<mailto:marc.johlic@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 2:05 PM
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>
Cc: WCAG<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: CFC - Updated Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688 on Character Key Shortcuts

+1

Marc Johlic

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>> wrote:
Call For Consensus - ends Friday January 19th at 7pm Boston time.

The Working Group has discussed responses to the following issues:
386: What do 'character key' and 'printable' mean? (https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/386<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F386&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=YMrDJ%2F%2F%2Fi0jpvJ31drMAJoGUeRV6HfQyNhXPdltuo3E%3D&reserved=0>)
659: Ambiguous definition (https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/659<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F659&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=0UIj1tLBh797kobr20RIg1uk5j3SFAvApBB7ZjgU%2BH8%3D&reserved=0>)
660: Characters (https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/660<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F660&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=AaLTkcUY9luA7FTB7sZimBEYeUZg%2BvONV%2BZWR4nz2io%3D&reserved=0>)
669: SC 2.4.11 Character Key Shortcuts - Proposal for change of wording (https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/669<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F669&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=SRda2HOnUV%2FR%2Bseu3CTuOH7o4ilx8uz2f8g%2BroGzKVc%3D&reserved=0>)
688: Comment on 2.4.11 (https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/688<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F688&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=fWK2vzrEkXjdoh8fQ%2Fqz9WwIt7IAFo7TCGOTnVe%2BY%2FY%3D&reserved=0>)

Response to Issue 386: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#386<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Fwiki%2FDraft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues%23386&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=Dho32HicpBL4OM7gpo%2BOakZIy6roa5OaYME8iB%2FAbaw%3D&reserved=0>
Response to Issue 659: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#659<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Fwiki%2FDraft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues%23659&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=%2FlWh6AI%2FVEXJfoS%2BXaMkAYEp4PEOj4VqV%2FADwUzI8ao%3D&reserved=0>
Response to Issue 660: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#660<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Fwiki%2FDraft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues%23660&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=1%2B0pf%2BAVgfrpR4nYjErXkgnD%2BEgicjWzTB3jyIe%2FXuY%3D&reserved=0>
Response to Issue 669: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#669<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Fwiki%2FDraft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues%23669&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=Fw2GNqUy04wPP4FC%2BcVfv1nKNdWwFb3jfUlsDDHb7J4%3D&reserved=0>
Response to Issue 688: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#688<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Fwiki%2FDraft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues%23688&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=DKYpKOAwf7TnXqr0oDdxWYrMBe%2FP7cGx9Y4mmxhsdk0%3D&reserved=0>

The changes to the SC are implemented in this pull request: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/732<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fpull%2F732&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=GCz%2BthOpmMi2zwKNuA4I3e94A32lavoESEkZTOfK0y0%3D&reserved=0>
The changed SC can be viewed here: http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/character_changes/guidelines/index.html#character-key-shortcuts<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fcharacter_changes%2Fguidelines%2Findex.html%23character-key-shortcuts&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=ww7iZLd8iadso5QhiqVEMEkAWG1nLzi%2FueE4DVEM2Rc%3D&reserved=0>

Since the original CFC, this has been updated to remove the mention of the shift key, and to remove the mention of space and enter (see specific commit here: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/732/commits/4f7d83ea030329529ede8f0f577abf51a18745a7<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fpull%2F732%2Fcommits%2F4f7d83ea030329529ede8f0f577abf51a18745a7&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C08986240ecb64624c84a08d55ec9e198%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636519143534596869&sdata=H31OIzGNbSAFSOkN%2Bq97LY598bwdpOSAqRcQxgkWtZM%3D&reserved=0>)

If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you "not being able to live with" this decision, please let the group know before the CfC deadline.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe

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