- From: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:32:12 -0800
- To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <OF095BED00.EA166EFD-ON88258218.005FAEC5-88258218.00605432@notes.na.collabserv.c>
> We are talking about general browser functionality, so *everyone* (with autofill turned on) would get their name filled in! First, this is not just an autofill issue. Autofill does not have to be turned on for there to be benefit via an AT from using the purpose attribute value. So, it is the use of the 'misusse' of the attribute value (from an a11y perspective) that I'm talking about. Second, yes, where autofill was turned on, everyone would face a situation where they would now have to distinguish between what the autofill is suggesting, and what the field is actually asking for. Furthermore, once someone correctly puts in a different value (say their spouse's name) from now on, they would have two stored values for name via autofill. I think it's pretty easy to see that both those scenarios more significantly impact COGA users as a group, and even more so for those who rely on a symbol substition or reinforcement. I'm not saying that is reason to reject this, but it does show how the nuances of this are hard for us to foresee in our 'forced march'. Michael Gower IBM Accessibility Research 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 gowerm@ca.ibm.com voice: (250) 220-1146 * cel: (250) 661-0098 * fax: (250) 220-8034 From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> To: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com> Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Date: 2018-01-17 08:55 AM Subject: Re: Created branch with proposed wording for 1.3.4 Ach, I’m sorry I mentioned it now, being in a 6-hour meeting made me very talkative on WCAG matters somehow. > Danger, WIll Robinson! That would seem to put us in the very unfortunate situation where someone depending on the name attribute conveying meaning will now be getting incorrect conversions happening. They could get too many, yes. However, if they started using the attributes due to WCAG, that is an unlikely outcome AND it would cause issues with basic usability. We are talking about general browser functionality, so *everyone* (with autofill turned on) would get their name filled in! Cheers, -Alastair
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