RE: Target size proposal

So if the 'space' is added to the target and if I interpret it correctly basically the text could be read as:

44 by 44 CSS pixels or is at least 34 by 34 CSS pixels (...?! 26 +8 =34)     (OR  44 by 44 CSS pixels or is at least 42 by 42 CSS pixels (...?! 26 +8 + 8 =42))
Equals to:
44 by 44 CSS pixels or is at least 26 by 26 CSS pixels with 8 CSS pixels spacing between targets;

This makes the complete text more doubtful than ever and seems like the MS text is wrongly interpreted


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk] 
Sent: woensdag 17 januari 2018 10:34
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: Re: Target size proposal

On 17/01/2018 07:14, Abma, J.D. (Jake) wrote:
[...]
> The gap between 34 and 44 is not explainable. As from my previous response,  link targets in a list with no spacing between and 38px height will fail while  link targets in a list only 26px height with 8px spacing will pass?
> Also the spacing is not clear what is exactly meant. Most designers 
> don't want spacing between target, or do we mean padding (as we use it 
> in CSS instead of margin...?!)

Picking up the spacing thing, I assume this was borne out of Microsoft's comment here/on a call https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2018JanMar/0287.html


That message references "recent version of Office" as example of this. 
As I responded on thread, though, when switching between "mouse optimized" and "touch optimized" in, say, Word 2013, it's not the spacing that increased, but in fact the entire touch target itself - the controls receive more *padding*, but the padding is still clickable/tappable/part of the target size. (see screenshot comparison
https://imgur.com/a/Snx1X)

So I'm not sure if Alex's comment about spacing/margin is using those terms in the way they've been interpreted here (as in "spacing/margin that isn't tappable/clickable").

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