RE: Possible wording for 1.3.4?

+1 to Josh’s version.

From: Joshue O Connor - InterAccess [mailto:josh@interaccess.ie]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:29 PM
To: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
Cc: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>; John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>; James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Possible wording for 1.3.4?

I also like Jasons/Mike Gs wording, but I'm not really a fan of the 'corresponding to the user' bit and think that should go into the Understanding documentation:

"    For content implemented using technologies that support specifying the purpose of form input fields, the purpose of each such supported field can be programmatically determined."

reads clearer to me, thoughts?

Thanks

Josh





  *   For content implemented using technologies that support specifying the purpose of specific types ofform input fields, the purpose of each such  supported field corresponding to the user can be programmatically determined.


White, Jason J wrote:

The second version below is indeed better than the first.

From: Michael Gower [mailto:michael.gower@ca.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:01 PM
To: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com><mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>
Cc: James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com><mailto:james.nurthen@oracle.com>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org><mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Possible wording for 1.3.4?

Yep, oversight. Here is Jason's version with a similar phrase put in.

  *   For content implemented using technologies that support specifying the purpose of specific types of form input fields, the purpose of each such field of a supported type corresponding to the user can be programmatically determined.

I was also wondering if we can tweak this to make it a tad less wordy...

  *   For content implemented using technologies that support specifying the purpose of specific types ofform input fields, the purpose of each such  supported field corresponding to the user can be programmatically determined.

Michael Gower
IBM Accessibility
Research

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From:        John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com<mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>>
To:        James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com<mailto:james.nurthen@oracle.com>>
Cc:        WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Date:        2018-01-12 11:49 AM
Subject:        Re: Possible wording for 1.3.4?
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Good catch James - not forgotten, but things are moving quickly here <smile>.  How about:

In content implemented using technologies with support for autofilling form inputs, for each input field that has a purpose that maps to any of the HTML 5.2 Autofill field names<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.w3.org-252FTR-252Fhtml52-252Fsec-2Dforms.html-2523autofill-2Dfield-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3DXRbdqxqP8ZK6sblYsmHoYOwbcLFZuiEs6zZ07udO-252Br4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3Dzi_5QrA22csOImNNtL-_epqCl6yXNBLbnWBScjx_kG0%26s%3DiulQV0_cQlIpMuyroT4Gy6P2fa--dCLF_astSzaanSc%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=mbMarDCnu%2BuBs1VTw%2F3z7XvtS%2BfRkVtdBs%2F%2FwuVKUPw%3D&reserved=0> directly related to the user, the meaning of the input field can be programmatically determined.

​(or, and I am not a huge fan of this one, but can live with it...):

Or, to step away from “autofill” a bit:
In content implemented using technologies with support for identifying the expected meaning for form input data, for each input field that has a purpose that maps to any of the HTML 5.2 Autofill field names​<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.w3.org-252FTR-252Fhtml52-252Fsec-2Dforms.html-2523autofill-2Dfield-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3DXRbdqxqP8ZK6sblYsmHoYOwbcLFZuiEs6zZ07udO-252Br4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3Dzi_5QrA22csOImNNtL-_epqCl6yXNBLbnWBScjx_kG0%26s%3DiulQV0_cQlIpMuyroT4Gy6P2fa--dCLF_astSzaanSc%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=mbMarDCnu%2BuBs1VTw%2F3z7XvtS%2BfRkVtdBs%2F%2FwuVKUPw%3D&reserved=0>
 directly related to the user,  the meaning of the input field can be programmatically determined.

​JF​
​

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:40 PM, James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com<mailto:james.nurthen@oracle.com>> wrote:
Both of these below have lost the fact that this only pertains to information about the user. If I am forced to use the autocomplete attribute on fields about employees (for example) in an HR application - that will make the usability of that application far worse as the browser will keep on prompting me for autocomplete suggestions for data pertaining to someone else.

On 1/12/2018 11:27 AM, Michael Gower wrote:
The last version of that is the best of the three, I think. I can live with that. However, I still prefer Jason's that does not tie everyone to the 5.2 meanings. Here they are back to back:

  *   In content implemented using technologies with support for identifying the expected meaning for form input data, for each input field that has a purpose that maps to any of the HTML 5.2 Autofill field names<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.w3.org-252FTR-252Fhtml52-252Fsec-2Dforms.html-2523autofill-2Dfield-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3DXRbdqxqP8ZK6sblYsmHoYOwbcLFZuiEs6zZ07udO-252Br4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3D-tGRnd0O2NeyJOdIqJyQWFXmkvidfIdbh1qC5CLQd4w%26s%3Dads5VC-C6Mfo8VQtlNIpurA-6cFvMk_w7Wi_opByeK8%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=uWeYmd%2BA%2BaY6B9QRfx0PkqWsGlhp6OQOLLANzmJFuuc%3D&reserved=0>the meaning of the input field can be programmatically determined.
  *   For content implemented using technologies that support specifying the purpose of specific types of form input fields, the purpose of each such field of a supported type can be programmatically determined.


Michael Gower
IBM Accessibility
Research

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From:        Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com><mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>
To:        "Alex Li (CELA)" <alli@microsoft.com><mailto:alli@microsoft.com>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com><mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>
Cc:        WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org><mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Date:        2018-01-12 11:13 AM
Subject:        Re: Possible wording for 1.3.4?
________________________________


I like that version Alex. A few tweaks in line with John’s:



In content implemented using technologies with support for autofilling form inputs and an equivalent input field as any of the HTML 5.2 Autofill field names<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.w3.org-252FTR-252Fhtml52-252Fsec-2Dforms.html-2523autofill-2Dfield-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3DXRbdqxqP8ZK6sblYsmHoYOwbcLFZuiEs6zZ07udO-252Br4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3D-tGRnd0O2NeyJOdIqJyQWFXmkvidfIdbh1qC5CLQd4w%26s%3Dads5VC-C6Mfo8VQtlNIpurA-6cFvMk_w7Wi_opByeK8%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=uWeYmd%2BA%2BaY6B9QRfx0PkqWsGlhp6OQOLLANzmJFuuc%3D&reserved=0>is used, the meaning of the equivalent input fields can be programmatically determined.



Changed:

In content implemented using technologies with support for autofilling form inputs, for each input field that has a purpose that maps to any of the HTML 5.2 Autofill field names<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.w3.org-252FTR-252Fhtml52-252Fsec-2Dforms.html-2523autofill-2Dfield-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3DXRbdqxqP8ZK6sblYsmHoYOwbcLFZuiEs6zZ07udO-252Br4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3D-tGRnd0O2NeyJOdIqJyQWFXmkvidfIdbh1qC5CLQd4w%26s%3Dads5VC-C6Mfo8VQtlNIpurA-6cFvMk_w7Wi_opByeK8%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=uWeYmd%2BA%2BaY6B9QRfx0PkqWsGlhp6OQOLLANzmJFuuc%3D&reserved=0>the meaning of the input field can be programmatically determined.



Or, to step away from “autofill” a bit:

In content implemented using technologies with support for identifying the expected meaning for form input data, for each input field that has a purpose that maps to any of the HTML 5.2 Autofill field names<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.w3.org-252FTR-252Fhtml52-252Fsec-2Dforms.html-2523autofill-2Dfield-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3DXRbdqxqP8ZK6sblYsmHoYOwbcLFZuiEs6zZ07udO-252Br4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3D-tGRnd0O2NeyJOdIqJyQWFXmkvidfIdbh1qC5CLQd4w%26s%3Dads5VC-C6Mfo8VQtlNIpurA-6cFvMk_w7Wi_opByeK8%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=uWeYmd%2BA%2BaY6B9QRfx0PkqWsGlhp6OQOLLANzmJFuuc%3D&reserved=0>the meaning of the input field can be programmatically determined.







Thanks,

AWK



Andrew Kirkpatrick

Group Product Manager, Accessibility

Adobe



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From: Alex Li <alli@microsoft.com><mailto:alli@microsoft.com>
Date: Friday, January 12, 2018 at 13:54
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com><mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com><mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>
Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org><mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Possible wording for 1.3.4?



How about something like this?



In content implemented using technologies with support for autofilling form inputs and an equivalent input field as any of the HTML 5.2 Autofill field names<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.w3.org-252FTR-252Fhtml52-252Fsec-2Dforms.html-2523autofill-2Dfield-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3DXRbdqxqP8ZK6sblYsmHoYOwbcLFZuiEs6zZ07udO-252Br4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3D-tGRnd0O2NeyJOdIqJyQWFXmkvidfIdbh1qC5CLQd4w%26s%3Dads5VC-C6Mfo8VQtlNIpurA-6cFvMk_w7Wi_opByeK8%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=uWeYmd%2BA%2BaY6B9QRfx0PkqWsGlhp6OQOLLANzmJFuuc%3D&reserved=0>is used, the meaning of the equivalent input fields can be programmatically determined.



From:Andrew Kirkpatrick [mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:26 AM
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com><mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>
Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org><mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Possible wording for 1.3.4?



If a company creates a tool that allows people to create web content they may be able to conform when the software is tested but that is a different date then for the person who builds content with it.



The suggestions are very much like 1.3.5:

In content implemented using markup languages, the purpose of User Interface Components<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Frawgit.com-252Fw3c-252Fwcag21-252Fmaster-252Fguidelines-252Findex.html-2523dfn-2Duser-2Dinterface-2Dcomponents-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3DaShpbJxNlVln6eAEUJg6nk8lPkPB-252BjdXstjbGKIILp4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3D-tGRnd0O2NeyJOdIqJyQWFXmkvidfIdbh1qC5CLQd4w%26s%3DJ1p9aWiRzMnym7LcLkG_mij1WI7NLFKMIeUmfSHN0ag%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=JmsWAOv6MF4Fduekx4RryO5sxinADanTiq0Vipuoxqw%3D&reserved=0>, icons, and regions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Frawgit.com-252Fw3c-252Fwcag21-252Fmaster-252Fguidelines-252Findex.html-2523dfn-2Dregions-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cca969dfd8a4a4e21f6e408d559ede8cc-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636513800714094670-26sdata-3Dk1pms5bzqxOapQWfkpzlGPeYKyudC-252BaHJjvKCQaBxRI-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3D-tGRnd0O2NeyJOdIqJyQWFXmkvidfIdbh1qC5CLQd4w%26s%3DH3KufAkbM17cTqG2LWv-mPE52LpLK3XiZCSy1ijXIc8%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C13adef66cf1947b0cfd808d559f74c34%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636513841023545042&sdata=wdprhfNR3NKaa7xRIRNFK5b0lppfdAhcqT5pqwi4akk%3D&reserved=0>can be programmatically determined.

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in 1.3.4 we have tried to define a smaller, more testable set.



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From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com<mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>>
Date: Friday, January 12, 2018 at 13:16
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>>
Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Possible wording for 1.3.4?



AWK:

> If I use HTML in a “living standard” way today and include all of the appropriate meanings/purposes that are defined, but then HTML adds meanings, how will I be able to handle my conformance? I haven’t changed the site, but the list changes. We can’t leave that open-ended.



As per Michael’s email on the other thread: Conformance is at a particular date, so it’s the standard at the time.



This was one of the reasons that the W3C has tried to ‘version’ HTML though, so your conformance could also reference a specific version, e.g:

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-Alastair



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