Re: Issue 650 Does the Hover or focus SC apply to tabbed interfaces?

Yes, that is the intent, for example a user is happily using their mouse to review content/UI and the new content pops up and covers some of what the person is trying to read so the goal is to allow that user to be able to dismiss the content and continue.

Thanks,
AWK

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From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 20:43
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <Jake.Abma@ing.nl>, Patrick Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Issue 650 Does the Hover or focus SC apply to tabbed interfaces?

Why do we need "without moving pointer hover"? Do we really want to say "without moving pointer hover off of the popup or trigger"?

Do we really mean without moving it **at all** ?


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On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>> wrote:
And we can certainly clarify this in the understanding document.

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AWK

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From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com<mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>>
Date: Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 16:08
To: "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <Jake.Abma@ing.nl<mailto:Jake.Abma@ing.nl>>, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>>, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>>, Patrick Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk<mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>>
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Subject: RE: Issue 650 Does the Hover or focus SC apply to tabbed interfaces?

I read “additional content” as something that is added to the page, essentially over-the-top of the current page.

If you take a bit of content away and put something else in it’s place, that is new, but not additional. The note does say “and other nonmodal popups” so I don’t think many will read it as applying to tabs.

Cheers,

-Alastair

From: Abma, J.D. (

About the definition for “additional content”, as can be read in my other comments, it's not present and what's present doesn't fit with the SC.