Identifiers

John,
I don’t really care about the form, and believe that the specifics are non-critical. Would you prefer to have the second list just continue where the last one leaves off (eg, one list ends with CP021 and the next starts with CP022)?

Thanks,
AWK

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From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 10:14
To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: CFC - Adding identifiers to Common Purpose lists

Hi Andrew,

While I generally support the addition of an identifier (number) to each Common Control, I do not believe we agreed to both CP00x for controls, and ICP00x for inputs. I have a general concern about the introduction of two controls that are numbered 001 (even if/when a prefixed alpa-string is added).

As such I OBJECT to the current notation, but not to the larger idea of adding the identifier.

My preference would be to instead (if we really MUST differentiate between the two types of controls), we use a numbering scheme like this:

7.1 Common Control Purposes

The following items represent an intended destination or action.
​CP001
Table of Contents - View or go to a table of contents
​CP002
Next - View or go to the next item in a series (e.g. a page in a book or next article)
...

7.2 Common Input Control Purposes

The following input control purposes are intended to relate to the user of the content and pertain only to information related to that individual.

​CP101
Name - Inputs used to handle information about a user’s name(s) (e.g. first name, family name, suffix, etc.)
​CP102​
Professional Title - Job title (e.g., "Software Engineer", "Senior Vice President", "Deputy Managing Director")

​As we do not anticipate ​the list of Common Controls to grow much beyond the fixed list we have today, using 001 through 099 for the controls, and 100 through 199 for the inputs further reduces any confusion that numbering might introduce. Keeping all controls (interaction or input) prefaced with CP (Common Purpose) also further unifies the idea that both types of controls are common and important.

I won't die on this hill, but feel strongly that we should further discuss this subtle change. If we can reach a consensus on list that would be great.

Thanks.

JF

​

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:19 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>> wrote:
+1


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On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 7:08 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>> wrote:
Call For Consensus — ends Thursday January 4nd at 7:00PM Boston time.

The Working Group has discussed a change to the list of common purposes referenced in the Identify Common Purpose SC. The specific change is to add an identifier to the lists so the individual items can be easily referenced.

The changes can be previewed at http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/common_Purpose_Identifiers/guidelines/index.html#commonpurposes<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fcommon_Purpose_Identifiers%2Fguidelines%2Findex.html%23commonpurposes&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C9926e13f93624cb82fdf08d552bcb6d9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636505892836538571&sdata=xh066J27i9m9iKQebufxU%2F4Yqy%2BCYLMj7%2F6of%2FrEjEI%3D&reserved=0> (section 7.1 and 7.2) as implemented in Pull request #652 (https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/652<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fpull%2F652&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C9926e13f93624cb82fdf08d552bcb6d9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636505892836538571&sdata=bd0TKhNVgpRCKQaFzCtCZi1WOPMwgPQZTaI9pEdjoVA%3D&reserved=0>).

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If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before the CfC deadline.

Thanks,
AWK

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