- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 16:55:13 -0400
- To: "Milliken, Neil" <neil.milliken@atos.net>
- Cc: "lisa.seeman@zoho.com" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com>, "W3c-Wai-Gl-Request@W3. Org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
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> Given that someone with dyslexia is disproportionately likely to be an entrepreneur. Hi Neil, Can you source that assertion? Curious to understand how you can state that, is all. Thanks in advance. JF On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Milliken, Neil <neil.milliken@atos.net> wrote: > Given that someone with dyslexia is disproportionately likely to be an > entrepreneur. I think perpetuating the negative stereotypes is concerning. > Heck yes I do find entering details and filling forms hard and I am > terrible with addresses but I also hold 2 good degrees and have a > reasonably successful career. > > Neil Milliken BA Oxon, MBA Open, FRSA, Atos Distinguished Expert > Head of Accessibility & Digital Inclusion > Atos > T: +442036180957 > M: *07812325386* <07812325386> > E: *Neil.Milliken@atos.net* <Neil.Milliken@atos.net> > www: *http://atos.net/iux* <http://atos.net/iux> > Twitter:*@neilmilliken* <https://twitter.com/neilmilliken> > Assistant Monika Tomczak > E: *Monika.Tomczak@atos.net* <Monika.Tomczak@atos.net> > M: +48517727304 > > > On 5 Jun 2018, at 06:18, lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com> wrote: > > Does anyone else find it offensive how wcag documents persona for coga > groups tend to do things like bagging groceries? > Of course we do include people with intellectual disabilities but I feel > there is a huge disservice in the balance of these persona as they > perpetuate the myth that we are not in the target audience for professional > or academic content. > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > ---- On Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:23:22 +0300 *Glenda Sims > <glenda.sims@deque.com <glenda.sims@deque.com>>* wrote ---- > > Hi Y'all, > > I think there are draft persona quotes for all of the WCAG 2.1 SC > already. They are published here: https://w3c.github.io/ > wai-intro-wcag/standards-guidelines/wcag/new-in-21/ > > > Let me pull out the COGA SC persona quotes specifically: > > 1.3.5 Identify Input Purpose (AA) > > > - Persona: Supermarket assistant > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/people-use-web/user-stories/#supermarketassistant> > with dyslexia and dyscalculia: > > > - Quote for when it is a problem: > - "My address is so complicated. There's lots of numbers and > long words. It's hard to type it all without making mistakes." > - Quote for when it works well: > - "I love websites that can automatically fill it all in for > me. Then I don't have to work so hard to get the numbers and spelling > right." > - *Note: *This works because the fields use autocomplete. > > 1.3.6 Identify Purpose (AAA) > > > - Persona: Gamer with language processing disability: > > > - Quote for when it is a problem: > - "I have software that changes the words in the navigation > into symbols. It doesn't work at all with some websites." > - Quote for when it works well: > - "It works pretty well with some websites." > > > 2.2.6 Timeouts (AAA) > > > - Persona: School playground aide with cognitive disabilities: > > > - Quote for when it is a problem: > - "I was selecting my Employee Benefits and was comparing the > different plans. When I went back to select the Health Plan, it had timed > out and lost all the information I had already entered." > - Quote for when it works well: > - "When I started the Employee Benefits app, it told me how > many minutes I had to complete the forms." > > What do y'all think? > G > > > *glenda sims* <glenda.sims@deque.com>, cpacc > <http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/certification> | team a11y > lead | 512.963.3773 > > deque systems <http://www.deque.com> accessibility for good > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:21 AM, lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com> wrote: > > > Hi Folks > > WCAG are asking us to make some quotes for persona for the understanding > document for wcag 2.1 > > See https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Persona_Quotes_for_2.1_ > Understanding_Documents > > we have > Identify Input Purpose > Identify Purpose > and Timeouts > > Can we propose some quotes? > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > > Atos, Atos Consulting, Worldline and Canopy The Open Cloud Company are > trading names used by the Atos group. 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