Re: Updates to Understanding 1.4.11

> ...except where the appearance of the component is determined by the user agent and not modified by the author.

Hmmm... this might be open to being interpreted as "If you do not specify the visible tab focus, and leave it to the native 'styling' provided by the browser, then black dotted lines around a component situated on a dark background is exempted/acceptable"  ...which is not what we are saying (right?)

I think that we are saying that…

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On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>> wrote:
Thanks for looking at this everyone.  Comments within:

"With the exception of inactive components or where the appearance of the component (including it's focus indicator) is determined by the user agent (and not modified by the author), the visual focus indicator for a component must always provide sufficient contrast against the adjacent background when the component is focused.​"​

How about:
The visual focus indicator for a component must have sufficient contrast against the adjacent background when the component is focused, except where the appearance of the component is determined by the user agent and not modified by the author.

I don’t think that we need to mention inactive components since inactive components don’t take focus.

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On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 6:26 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>> wrote:
I agree

I put comment inline... Just one thing.

p>In all cases, the visual focus indicator for a component must have sufficient contrast against the adjacent background when the component is focused.</p>
​the SC text has exceptions to "all cases" except for inactive components or where the appearance of the component is determined by the user agent and not modified by the author;


How about this?
​"​
In all cases, except for inactive components or where the appearance of the component (including it's focus indicator) is determined by the user agent and not modified by the author; the visual focus indicator for a component must have sufficient contrast against the adjacent background when the component is focused.
​"​


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On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:39 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>> wrote:
AGWG’ers,
I’ve reviewed the 1.4.11 Understanding document and think that this is a solid start: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/943/files?utf8=<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fpull%2F943%2Ffiles%3Futf8%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C06c050afb63942845e9e08d5c7c8f28e%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636634588242824824&sdata=foUD4ZC0yOk9Yj7tfG28b4TJSC%2BBNEUMynskwmcBpvQ%3D&reserved=0>✓&diff=split

I expect that we will want to include additional examples and explanations, but think that these changes are aligned with how 1.4.11 reads now.

Thoughts?

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